I’ve seen a few hotels like that in the states. Generally Simplex systems. One of them had TrueAlert speaker/strobes in a small area that had been renovated. Much more common in Canada, though, as strobes are a relatively recent requirement up there. I have seen a few malls and convention centers that have remote strobes, but the EVAC system is hooked up to the PA.
Target has a ton of locations in this part of the country with that setup. Always found it weird.
Crossiron Mills has an EST system (saw the annunciator in Bass Pro Shops), with mostly EST 757-5A-T ceiling mount horn/strobes and EST 757-1A-T horns. In the Bass Pro Shops, there are EST 757-5A-T wall mount horn/strobes. Pulls are all EST SIGA-270P,
Dollarama in Royal Oak has an EST system (the annunciator is OUTSIDE) with the only signal I saw outside was an EST 405-7A-T strobe. there are probably Integrities or Genesises hidden in there. Pulls are all EST SIGA-270
Home Depot in Airdrie has a Notifier system, with System Sensor P2R horn/strobes. Outside, there is a System Snesor P2RK. Pulls are all Notifier NBG-12LX
Canadian Tire in Beacon Hill has an EST 6632 system, with Edwards 439D-10AWC bells on EST 403-5A-R strobe plates. Outside, there are Edwards 439D-6AWC bells with EST 405-8A-T strobes. Pulls are all Edwards 270-SPO
A Walgreens in Long Grove has I’m pretty sure a Fire-Lite annunciator, with Gentex Commander 1 horn-strobes and BG-10 pulls. There are 4 horn strobes on the walls and 4 on the ceiling, which is a lot IMO. I haven’t gone there in about 6 months so I’ll update once I for sure know.
Cass Elementary School (Livonia) - This building is slated for closure as an elementary school at the end of this school year; however, according to a local newspaper source, a long-term occupancy is in the works for the building. Cass first opened in 1967.
Annunciators/panels:
The only noticeable device in this category is a National Time panel, model unknown, in the main office. It doesn’t appear to be one of the original devices installed. The panel is set for continuous coding on all notification appliances.
Detectors:
There is at least one System Sensor 2400-series photoelectric detector, also located in the main office.
Pull stations:
All the pull stations are National Time 641 models, located in hallways and all classrooms (next to exterior doors leading outside). Some, but not all, are protected by Stopper II covers or National Time’s own ST-series covers with backboxes.
Notification appliances:
The original system from 1967 consisted of National Time 411F horns in the hallways, along with one in the gymnasium. Even after the system was upgraded sometime during the 1990s, most, if not all of the 411F devices are still in place! The one in the gymnasium was painted over with white paint.
Also left over from the original system is a National Time P804 fire bell (gray), used as a ‘trouble’ indicator for the panel.
The current setup is where things get interesting. It consists of National Time-branded Faraday strobes (non-flush plates, bubble strobes) and FOS-branded Faraday horn/strobes (non-flush plates, bubble strobes) throughout the school. The classrooms were designed with folding partition walls, so each classroom alternates between a strobe and a horn/strobe. The bathrooms contain only strobe units, and rooms like the LMC, gym, and also the hallways use a mixture of horn/strobes and strobes.
The school still uses its National Time P806 bells from the original system for general signaling purposes; most of them are located behind silver grilles, but there are two of them located outside that are surface-mounted. In addition, there is a National Time P810 bell outside with a protective grille. Most of the P806 bells are located next to the 411F horns.
I assume the 411F horns aren’t active anymore?
I’ve never heard them sound off during the time I attended Cass. Other LPS buildings have removed their old horns, so my guess is if the 411F devices work at all, it’s only for backup signaling (e.g., a power failure). This is not the only building I’ve been in where old signaling devices were still in place despite newer devices being in such close proximity to them.
Then they probably are disconnected.
Canadian Tire in Cochrane (just opened last year) has an EST i064 system, with EST EG1R-HDVM horn/strobes. Pulls are all EST SIGA-270 (newer EST logo)
Safeway in Cochrane, had their system replaced last month, it originally was an EST 2, now it has a Simplex 4100ES system, with EST 757-5A-T horn/strobes, that are being re-used! Outside the Wheelock MB-G6-24 bell is gone, now in it’s place is a System Sensor SRK strobe, or a P2RK horn/strobe, surprisingly. Pulls are all Mirtone 73303, that are being re-used too.
St. Cloud Community Aquatic Center/ YMCA | St. Cloud, MN | Built in: 2017
*Note that the following information has been compiled from various photographs and press releases regarding this building, which hasn’t officially opened yet and was just opened to the public for the first time this past weekend. Anyways, here’s what I could come up with based upon the photographs of the building that I’ve come across… I’ll likely have a chance to see this building for myself within the next few weeks, so I’ll update you if any information in this post is incorrect. ANYWAYS…
The fire alarm system appears to be a Notifier voice-evacuation system, with System Sensor SPSR and SPSCR speaker/strobes, and obviously some SR and SCR strobes as well. My guess would be that the pool area contains weatherproof speaker/strobes, but I haven’t verified that as of yet. I also can’t tell if there are any pull stations installed, but if there are any I’m 99% sure that they’re NBG-12’s.
And in case some of you exit sign enthusiasts were wondering, the primary exit signs installed throughout the building are Dual-Lite LE-series with red lettering (verified), and I’m going to assume probably some Sempras or something of the like, though once again I haven’t verified that.
Odell Building//Greensboro College//Greensboro, NC
Panel
8-Zone, Conventional Simplex something (replacement…I’m willing to bet a 4002)
Simplex 4601 RCU annunciator in the vestibule (replacement as well)
Initiating Devices
Simplex 4251-20 Pulls
Simplex 2099-9754 (replacements)
I didn’t see any smokes or heats, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t any
Signals
Simplex 4051 horns! Semi-flush, wall and ceiling mount. There’s a lot of them, too :shock:
System Sensor MASS-ADA horn/strobes (Auditorium, renovated 1997-1998)
No remote strobes/lights to be seen
Is that where you go to school?
SUNY Buffalo did some long-needed fire alarm upgrades over the past year. For almost a decade now, all retrofits have been EST3 systems with Genesis speaker/strobes, so I was a bit surprised when I saw what was in this building when I was checking out a bunch of recent renovations on campus:
Cooke/Hochstetter Halls, SUNY Buffalo, Amherst, NY
Smokes: System Sensor 2251 series, unknown model
NAs: SpectrAlert Advance speaker/strobes with “ALERT” lettering
Pulls: Notifier BG12s
Panel: Unknown, almost certainly Notifier
Former system (still in place, unknown if active)
Smokes: mix of devices, including old System Sensor units and silver smokes (I can’t place, but likely Simplex). Smokes are only by fire doors.
NAs: Most are 4040s/4050s, mix of flush and surface mount. A few 2901-9838 horns installed as replacements, recently-renovated areas have Faraday 6170B/6230B horns (no stobes, though).
Pulls: Old Simplex single-action T-bars
Panel: Unknown, almost certainly Simplex
If its ALERT lettering, are you sure that it is for the fire alarm system?
Yes. It’s an alarm replacement project. All devices installed on that campus in the last 5-10 years have ALERT lettering because it’s also used as a mass notification system. That and the new system has smoke detectors and standard BG-12s.
Well I went up to the apartment building I’m moving into today to get keys, check the progress of my apartment (currently in the process of being recarpeted and painted, almost done) and sign some last documents so I snagged some FA pics:
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Tractorland in Balzac has a Notifier NFS-320C system, with a System Sensor P2R/P4R horn/strobe, and a System Sensor P1224MC horn/strobe. Pulls are all Notifier NBG-12 (no flashing light).
Ralph’s Motorsports has a Simplex 4007ES system (That’s the first time I’ve even seen one! 
) with Simplex 49AV-WRF (TrueAlert ES) horn/strobes. Outside, there is a Simplex 49VO-WRFO-C (TrueAlert ES) remote strobe. Pulls are all Simplex 4099-9001(Newer Simplex logo)
Today I went into a recently constructed Fresh Thyme produce store that had an EST- io64 panel with ceiling mount Genesis’s. When I was leaving, I noticed that the SIGA pull station by the door had been pulled, and was ripped out of the wall! Interestingly, the annunciator showed that the system was normal, no troubles, alarms, or anything. I didn’t take a picture because there were people nearby, and I didn’t want to look suspicious, but I have never seen anything like that before, especially with the system normal!
F/A Fan, that picture of the 2 can voice/phone 2001 brings back lots of memories. I can’t count how many of those I did final connections and tested over the years.
