Chapters in Crowfoot has a Notifier AFP-200 system, with System Sensor P1224MC horn/strobes. Smokes are unknown, and all of the pulls are Notifier NFM-950B.
I see them all the time. I remember one of them was in this old hotel in downtown Windsor, Ontario. It was some sort of Mirtone 2 stage Voice Evac panel from the late 80s/early 90s. The alarms were all speakers, and we did have 2 false alarms happen when I was there. The alarms did a 20 BPM “beep” for the first stage. Never heard them in the second stage, but I assume that the system would’ve done a slow whoop.
The Home Depot in Beacon hill has a Notifier system, (probaby AFP-400 or 200) with System Sensor P1224MC horn/strobes. In the Garden center, there is a SpectrAlert falling off it’s trim plate, and at least one System Sensor S1224MC strobe. Pull stations are all Notifier MPS-950B.
Speaking of Home Depot, the one here in Brockton MA had a new fire alarm system installed recently. Previously, the original system to the store was some kind of addressable EST system with SIGA-278 dual-action pulls, but the alarms consisted of separate wall-mount Wheelock NH horns (on the beams) and ceiling-mount Wheelock RSS strobes (on the ceiling) in the sales floor area, along with Wheelock NS horn/strobes in smaller rooms and offices and such (I have a friend that used to work there.) Now they have an addressable Silent Knight system of some kind, with a 5860R annunciator replacing the EST one, and they have SD-500PS pull stations replacing the EST ones. The alarm signals are now System Sensor SpectrAlert Advance horn/strobes (ceiling-mount ones in the sales floor area), not surprisingly. (Guess they’re trying to use up all the old stock of them.) I’m guessing the EST system was having problems and needed to be replaced (also not surprisingly.)
Why was it necessary to change all of the notification appliances?
I’ve seen a few hotels like that in the states. Generally Simplex systems. One of them had TrueAlert speaker/strobes in a small area that had been renovated. Much more common in Canada, though, as strobes are a relatively recent requirement up there. I have seen a few malls and convention centers that have remote strobes, but the EVAC system is hooked up to the PA.
Target has a ton of locations in this part of the country with that setup. Always found it weird.
Crossiron Mills has an EST system (saw the annunciator in Bass Pro Shops), with mostly EST 757-5A-T ceiling mount horn/strobes and EST 757-1A-T horns. In the Bass Pro Shops, there are EST 757-5A-T wall mount horn/strobes. Pulls are all EST SIGA-270P,
Dollarama in Royal Oak has an EST system (the annunciator is OUTSIDE) with the only signal I saw outside was an EST 405-7A-T strobe. there are probably Integrities or Genesises hidden in there. Pulls are all EST SIGA-270
Home Depot in Airdrie has a Notifier system, with System Sensor P2R horn/strobes. Outside, there is a System Snesor P2RK. Pulls are all Notifier NBG-12LX
Canadian Tire in Beacon Hill has an EST 6632 system, with Edwards 439D-10AWC bells on EST 403-5A-R strobe plates. Outside, there are Edwards 439D-6AWC bells with EST 405-8A-T strobes. Pulls are all Edwards 270-SPO
A Walgreens in Long Grove has I’m pretty sure a Fire-Lite annunciator, with Gentex Commander 1 horn-strobes and BG-10 pulls. There are 4 horn strobes on the walls and 4 on the ceiling, which is a lot IMO. I haven’t gone there in about 6 months so I’ll update once I for sure know.
Cass Elementary School (Livonia) - This building is slated for closure as an elementary school at the end of this school year; however, according to a local newspaper source, a long-term occupancy is in the works for the building. Cass first opened in 1967.
Annunciators/panels:
The only noticeable device in this category is a National Time panel, model unknown, in the main office. It doesn’t appear to be one of the original devices installed. The panel is set for continuous coding on all notification appliances.
Detectors:
There is at least one System Sensor 2400-series photoelectric detector, also located in the main office.
Pull stations:
All the pull stations are National Time 641 models, located in hallways and all classrooms (next to exterior doors leading outside). Some, but not all, are protected by Stopper II covers or National Time’s own ST-series covers with backboxes.
Notification appliances:
The original system from 1967 consisted of National Time 411F horns in the hallways, along with one in the gymnasium. Even after the system was upgraded sometime during the 1990s, most, if not all of the 411F devices are still in place! The one in the gymnasium was painted over with white paint.
Also left over from the original system is a National Time P804 fire bell (gray), used as a ‘trouble’ indicator for the panel.
The current setup is where things get interesting. It consists of National Time-branded Faraday strobes (non-flush plates, bubble strobes) and FOS-branded Faraday horn/strobes (non-flush plates, bubble strobes) throughout the school. The classrooms were designed with folding partition walls, so each classroom alternates between a strobe and a horn/strobe. The bathrooms contain only strobe units, and rooms like the LMC, gym, and also the hallways use a mixture of horn/strobes and strobes.
The school still uses its National Time P806 bells from the original system for general signaling purposes; most of them are located behind silver grilles, but there are two of them located outside that are surface-mounted. In addition, there is a National Time P810 bell outside with a protective grille. Most of the P806 bells are located next to the 411F horns.
I assume the 411F horns aren’t active anymore?
I’ve never heard them sound off during the time I attended Cass. Other LPS buildings have removed their old horns, so my guess is if the 411F devices work at all, it’s only for backup signaling (e.g., a power failure). This is not the only building I’ve been in where old signaling devices were still in place despite newer devices being in such close proximity to them.
Then they probably are disconnected.
Canadian Tire in Cochrane (just opened last year) has an EST i064 system, with EST EG1R-HDVM horn/strobes. Pulls are all EST SIGA-270 (newer EST logo)
Safeway in Cochrane, had their system replaced last month, it originally was an EST 2, now it has a Simplex 4100ES system, with EST 757-5A-T horn/strobes, that are being re-used! Outside the Wheelock MB-G6-24 bell is gone, now in it’s place is a System Sensor SRK strobe, or a P2RK horn/strobe, surprisingly. Pulls are all Mirtone 73303, that are being re-used too.
St. Cloud Community Aquatic Center/ YMCA | St. Cloud, MN | Built in: 2017
*Note that the following information has been compiled from various photographs and press releases regarding this building, which hasn’t officially opened yet and was just opened to the public for the first time this past weekend. Anyways, here’s what I could come up with based upon the photographs of the building that I’ve come across… I’ll likely have a chance to see this building for myself within the next few weeks, so I’ll update you if any information in this post is incorrect. ANYWAYS…
The fire alarm system appears to be a Notifier voice-evacuation system, with System Sensor SPSR and SPSCR speaker/strobes, and obviously some SR and SCR strobes as well. My guess would be that the pool area contains weatherproof speaker/strobes, but I haven’t verified that as of yet. I also can’t tell if there are any pull stations installed, but if there are any I’m 99% sure that they’re NBG-12’s.
And in case some of you exit sign enthusiasts were wondering, the primary exit signs installed throughout the building are Dual-Lite LE-series with red lettering (verified), and I’m going to assume probably some Sempras or something of the like, though once again I haven’t verified that.
Odell Building//Greensboro College//Greensboro, NC
Panel
8-Zone, Conventional Simplex something (replacement…I’m willing to bet a 4002)
Simplex 4601 RCU annunciator in the vestibule (replacement as well)
Initiating Devices
Simplex 4251-20 Pulls
Simplex 2099-9754 (replacements)
I didn’t see any smokes or heats, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t any
Signals
Simplex 4051 horns! Semi-flush, wall and ceiling mount. There’s a lot of them, too :shock:
System Sensor MASS-ADA horn/strobes (Auditorium, renovated 1997-1998)
No remote strobes/lights to be seen
Is that where you go to school?
SUNY Buffalo did some long-needed fire alarm upgrades over the past year. For almost a decade now, all retrofits have been EST3 systems with Genesis speaker/strobes, so I was a bit surprised when I saw what was in this building when I was checking out a bunch of recent renovations on campus:
Cooke/Hochstetter Halls, SUNY Buffalo, Amherst, NY
Smokes: System Sensor 2251 series, unknown model
NAs: SpectrAlert Advance speaker/strobes with “ALERT” lettering
Pulls: Notifier BG12s
Panel: Unknown, almost certainly Notifier
Former system (still in place, unknown if active)
Smokes: mix of devices, including old System Sensor units and silver smokes (I can’t place, but likely Simplex). Smokes are only by fire doors.
NAs: Most are 4040s/4050s, mix of flush and surface mount. A few 2901-9838 horns installed as replacements, recently-renovated areas have Faraday 6170B/6230B horns (no stobes, though).
Pulls: Old Simplex single-action T-bars
Panel: Unknown, almost certainly Simplex
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If its ALERT lettering, are you sure that it is for the fire alarm system?