I should note, these units will usually activate a local alarm near the door if they are opened, mainly as a deterrent to theft, rather than activating the fire alarm.
These units shouldn’t be relied upon to alert building occupants should a fire be discovered.
Lunds & Byerly’s Downtown - Minneapolis, MN
Panel: Simplex 4010ES (didn’t see the panel, but there’s a 4606-9102 annunciator at the entrance).
Pull stations: 4099-9001’s
Smoke detectors: A few newer TrueAlarms
Signals: TrueAlert horn/strobes (4906-9127)
Got back from running errands today, and here are the systems.
Varsity Vet Clinic is a small building, so there’s no alarm system, just your regular household smoke alarms
Planet Organic in Varsity has an EST? system with EST G1R-HDVM horn/strobes. Pulls are all Edwards 270-SPO.
Goodwill in Varsity has an EST system too, with EST G1R-HDVM horn/strobes too. One was installed horizontally, and one was on the ceiling. There was also a Wheelock MB-G6-24 bell near the side of the building, not sure why it’s there. Either its disconnected or it rings with the Genesis horn/strobes. There were two pulls, one was a Notifier MPS-950B, and one was an Edwards 270-SPO
CO-OP in Rocky Ridge has a Notifier AFP-200 system, with System Sensor SpectrAlert Classic horn/strobes. Pulls are all Notifier MPS-950B.
Grand View Lodge - Main Lodge - Nisswa, MN
Nothing inside, just a Wheelock ASWP as a sprinkler alarm. Grand View Lodge - Pool/Fitness - Nisswa, MN
Pull stations: Silent Knight T-bars
Signals: Wheelock NS and AS horn/strobes.
Sideways Wheelock RSS in men’s room.
Smoke detectors: System Sensor i3’s Schaefers Foods - Nisswa, MN
Nothing inside, just a Wheelock Farr-Larm 3300 as a sprinkler alarm. Target - Baxter, MN
Signals: System Sensor non-ADA MASS’es
In the customer service desk room, I saw what looked like a Radionics keypad, and probably a Radionics T-bar pull station.
There’s also a Wheelock Farr-Larm 3300 as a sprinkler alarm.
You sure it’s an ES? I typically see most with either addressable 4906’s or ES series NA’s. I have seen the occasional ones with SmartSync but it seems odd that they would use an older series. But CLE Int’l Airport has an ES panel with a mixture of 4906 SmartSync stuff along with ES stuff and maybe 4906 addressable stuff thrown into the mix, not to mention the stuff from the Thorn/Kidde/Fenwal system they previously had prior to renovations in 2015. But the 4906 series is still in production (for now at least), so it’s possible, but if you see stations without LEDs as the pulls it likely is a regular 4010 as they predate the ES launch. But I do believe they weren’t discontinued until awhile ago so I suppose it’s possible.
Those could also be a 4006 or 4008 system too, but 4006 is more likely than a 4008 in that case. But if the TrueAlarms had the LED on the side rather on the front of the head like they do conventionally you’d be able to tell because the 4606 series is compatible with ES series, 4100U, 4010, 4006, and 4008.
Went to the Calgary Stampede, and here is the systems.
Scotiabank Saddledome has an EST system, with I think the PA System as the alarm. Pulls are all Edwards 270-SPO.
Stables have an EST system, and Edwards 439D-10AWC and 439D-6AWC bells. Pulls are GE EST SIGA-270
The Agriculture Building has an EST QuickStart system, with EST Genesis Horn/strobes (white, wall, no FIRE lettering). Pulls are Tyco Grinnell rebranded Notifier NFM-950B, and I saw an Edwards 274-111.
Well it could be a different model, they look all the same to me and it doesn’t make sense that these annunciators aren’t compatible with other panels, but perhaps I’m thinking of the 4606-9101.
I can give a little insight to this. Both the 4606-9102 and 4603-9101 use RUI which is a 24 volt communications circuit. I don’t know what the differences are between the 4100 style RUI and the 4010ES RUI.
The 4606-9101 which is compatible with the original 4010 and the 4006/4008 systems uses N2 communications. N2 is an industrial version of RS-485 which is a balanced 5 volt communication circuit.
The Olive Garden near me has 9838s on 9105 strobe plates in their bathrooms also. And in Arizona when I went to an Olive Garden there, there were Faraday 6120s and guess what were also in the bathrooms?
A restroom at the Denver International Airport had a speaker (probably for the newer Simplex system in parts of the airport; it was an FA speaker) AND a Wheelock EH-EL1-WM-24 horn/strobe (for the system in that section of the airport) in it!
Target - Watertown, MA
Panel: Some sort of Fire-Lite panel (there’s an LCD-80F annunciator at the main entrance)
Pull stations: Fire-Lite BG-12LX’s with Stopper covers
Signals: White SpectrAlert Advance horn/strobes and remote strobes. Mostly ceiling-mount with some wall-mount.
And yes, this system had a trouble condition on it. :x
I think most of the targets in MA are undergoing some rennovations, as the Target near me in Central/Eastern MA has recently upgraded from an addressable Gamewell system with commander 3 horns and ceiling strobes to white SpectrAlert advance PC2R ceiling-mount systems along with Fire-Lite BG-12LX pull stations and ANN-80 annunciators. The panel is probably a 9200 or a 9600UDLS. Another target in the Taunton mall has recently upgraded to a similar system type as well.
Target has been upgrading their Northeast stores lately. Several locations in the Buffalo area had the old systems (generally Gentex SHG horns and BG-10s, can’t remember anything else) replaced with Fire-Lite systems featuring SpectrAlert Advance horns a couple years ago. I’ll have to check up on the older Albany-area stores to see if systems have been replaced.
