Fire Alarms in Buildings (2.0)

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I didn’t see the whole classroom so I was saying it looked bigger than it actually is. That is actually the same size as the reading room at my elementary school. It was in the side of the library, so it had a Gentex SHG in it right below the emergency lights there.

First Street Parking Deck (Detroit)

Panel/annunciators: Unknown

Detectors:

Gentex ionization detectors above elevator areas
One System Sensor 24XX-series thermal heat detector in the parking deck’s office

Pull stations:

Older Edwards 270-SPO models, non-ADA

Notification appliances:

The devices consist predominantly of rectangular bullhorn speakers (make/model unknown) along with red beacons (incandescent?, make/model unknown). The beacons are located mostly near the elevator/stairwell corridors while the speakers are scattered throughout the structure.
There is a 6" bell–either a National Time P806 or a System Sensor model–on a wall along the exit lane to First Street.

Cobo Center (Detroit) - This is a location I previously posted on the older forums.

Panel/annunciators: Unknown

Detectors:

Unknown square ionization detectors above elevator areas, possibly Gentex models
System Sensor i3-series models, located throughout the exhibit halls
Unknown photoelectric/heat detectors in the lobby area

Pull stations:

A mixture of Fire-Lite BG-10 and Johnson Controls-branded BG-12 devices

Notification appliances:

A mixture of Wheelock RSS strobes, Wheelock Exceder horn/strobes, one System Sensor SpectrAlert classic horn/strobe, Wheelock E50 speaker/strobes, Wheelock E70 speaker/strobes, and Wheelock E90 speakers and speaker/strobes. All devices vary between red and white colors as well as being wall or ceiling-mounted.

For my birthday, my family and I drove up to Middleton’s on Main. Now I could finally have a good note of the alarms present. They have an unknown system, possibly Spectronics, with two Wheelock 34T-24 horns- one at the front door, and the other upstairs near the bathrooms. Smoke detectors are old System Sensor 2400s, with a few 2251EMs(?) scattered. Pulls are old Edwards 270-SPO, each under both 34Ts.

It might be an old Notifier system, like an AFP-200.

AMA Alberta Motor Association in Crowfoot has either a Simplex 4006 or 4008 system, judging by the 4610-9111 annunciator at the entrance, with Simplex 4906-9127 TrueAlert horn/strobes. Heat detectors are Simplex 4098-9615, and the pulls are all Simplex 4099-9001.

395 Totten Pond Road | Waltham, MA
Panel: Some sort of Fire-Lite system, judging by the LCD-80F annunciator
Pull stations: BG-12LX’s
Detectors: SD-355’s
Signals: SpectrAlert Classic horn/strobes

An apartment building in SW Calgary (Killarney Neighborhood) has a Mircom FA-1000 system, with Mircom FHS-240R horn/strobes. Pulls are all Mircom MS-401.

ROCORI High School/Middle School in Cold Spring, MN has an EST2 system with Edwards Genesis-series horn/strobes and strobes, 278B pull stations, and SIGA detectors, plus a few outdoor Integrities. Nothing super interesting.

I got a peak at the St. Cloud (MN) Wastewater Treatment Facility- Hester Park facility, although all I saw through the window was a Notifier (?) smoke detector and a Wheelock E-70 speaker/strobe. Not totally sure on the system, but I’d assume it’s Notifier.

Boston Logan International Airport - Terminal E - Boston, MA
Panel: Simplex 4100 (judging by the annunciators)
Pull stations: 4099-9003’s in most areas, 4099-9006’s in the expansion.
Detectors: Newer TrueAlarms in most areas, and Bosch beam detectors in areas with high ceilings.
Signals: TrueAlert speaker/strobes (both wall and ceiling-mount)

UPDATE 2

We had a false alarm today and all the signals sounded in the “newer” Temporal 3. This leads me to believe the system is a 4005 or possibly a 4100-Series. Given that the auditorium was renovated 1997-98, a 4005 or 4100 would make sense. Also, the three 4051s I passed on my way out were all quiet(er), which means the volume screws are tightened (thank GOD). As for the 4602 RCU LED annunciator, can the 4100-Series panels support those?

The firmware in the 4602 RCU/SCU annunciators was updated when the 4100 was released in 1988, so are supported by 4100, 4020, 4005, 4007, and 4010ES (not original 4010). They are also backward compatible with the 4002. The oldest 4602 units were released with the 4002. Those old units are not compatible with the 4100, 4020, 4005, 4007, or 4010ES panels.

I discussed some of the compatibility issues in another thread.

I do have to say I think the ideas of 4051s in code-3 would be a bit weird and wouldn’t sound too good. Then again, I only heard them in continuous and that was 12 years ago. My college had them but I think there were in march time.

I personally think 4051s ‘in the field’ sounding in Temporal 3 sounds AWESOME. They share (especially in Temopral 3) the same characteristic that the SpectrAlert Advance has; its tone is so obnoxious that it literally “runs” you out!

Never thought of a 4051 as being obnoxious. Loud sometimes yes but some fire alarms can tend to be louder due to their location. Case in point: the 4051s in the science wing of my middle school were louder than they were anywhere else.

[quote] CF Market Mall has an EST3 system (saw the annunciator), with EST 757-5A-TW (white) horn/strobes and 757-1A-TW (white) horns in the hallways, mounted on the ceiling, with the FIRE lettering vertically. In the stores, there are EST 757-5A-T (red) horn/strobes mounted either on the ceiling or the wall. The Toys 'R' Us in there has Edwards 882-2B horns instead of Integrity horn/strobes, possibly from the 1988 renovation. The Safeway in there has an Integrity horn/strobe in the passage to it, but the main horn/strobes in there are System Sensor SpectrAlert P1224MC, There are also white-painted Edwards flush-mounted Adaptahorns everywhere, not sure if its part of it or not. Pulls are Edwards 270-GAO (not two-stage setup tho) in the main mall, and Grinnell-rebranded Notifier MPS-950B in the Safeway. The strobes are synchronized, but not the horns, and they do code-3 [/quote]

There was an alarm test on Tuesday, and it is a two-stage set up, and the horns (high volume) for first stage goes in a pattern like 0.8 seconds on, 3 seconds off, 0.8 seconds on, 3 seconds off. The second stage, the Integrities do code-3, and the 882-2B horns in Toys R Us might do Code 3 as well.

My current school has an EST QuickStart (I found the panel yesterday, but it’s not visible, it’s in the caretakers room), with mostly Edwards MB6-24 bells on EST 403-5A-R strobe plates, there is also a bell/strobe in the library computer area, and the music/band room. The gym and CTS shop have Edwards MB10-24 bells on the EST 403-5A-R strobe plates. Also scattered around, there is at least two EST SIGA-LED alarm indicators on the ceiling per floor, they blend in very well. Outside there are Edwards MB6-24 bells, and one EST 405-7A-T strobe by the bike rack. Pulls are all EST SIGA-270, heats are SIGA-HRS, and smokes are SIGA-PS.

Local Apple store has a Simplex system. No pull station, white TrueAlerts, sprinklers hidden in the ceiling, and probably a 4007ES judging by the fact that the building was redone in the past year.

Dollarama in Beacon Heights has an EST system, with an EST G1R-HDVM horn/strobe. Pull is an EST (GE) SIGA-270.

I just got back from Anthro New England 2018, held at the Boston Park Plaza Hotel this year! The building was built in 1927 and had some renovations a couple years ago. The fire alarm system is currently a Simplex 4100ES with voice-evac; next to the check-in area is a 4603-9101 LCD annunciator.
The majority of the alarms are a mix of white Simplex 4903-9167 and 4903-9193 horizontal speaker/strobes and white 4906-9153 TrueAlert speaker/strobes. In the stairwell from the third floor to the mezzanine level, there’s a red 4903 horizontal speaker/strobe, and in one restroom I saw a red 4906-9151 TrueAlert speaker/strobe, and in the small convenience store on the lobby level there’s a 4906-9154 ceiling-mount TrueAlert speaker/strobe (as I’ve said, I often see at least one of these on virtually any modern Simplex voice-evac system from this decade.) Remote TrueAlert strobes (white) are also installed where additional strobe coverage is needed. But on the main ballroom stage, one of the alarms is an old Federal Selectone speaker (probably rebranded by Simplex) on a Simplex 2903 visual plate! (rear-mount, meaning it’s a 2903-9001 or 2903-9101) I am pretty sure it’s still active, given how there weren’t any newer alarms close to it, and since the system is still Simplex.
The majority of the pull stations are a mix of Simplex single-action 2099-9795s with the trim plates and dual-action 4099-9006 pulls with the LED indicator. In the main lobby, one of the pulls has a Stopper II cover, while others don’t. On the stage under the 2903 alarm is a Simplex 4251-30GA pull that is missing the break-glass frame and hammer (and yes, I saw the keyhole behind the lever.)
Smoke detectors were 4098-9714 photoelectric TrueAlarm heads on 4098-9792 bases, but in the backstage area where we all hung out during our “Fur-iety Show” today had a TrueAlarm with the cover plate missing, exposing the black head! Near the 80s Simplex alarm devices on the stage is a Chemtronics 601 heat sensor, without a doubt rebranded by Simplex.

I actually got to hear the system in action yesterday, as they were testing the alarms due to construction on the third floor. The strobes begin to flash, and then it chimes a few times (the newer-style Simplex chime tone), and then the female multi-floor evac message plays twice, and then it goes into the Code-3 tone until the system is silenced. The system is programmed for audible silence, as the strobes kept flashing after the Code-3 tone stopped. Then after a while the chime tone played again followed by the female all-clear message. Then the strobes flashed for a little longer before the system was finally reset. I uploaded a video of some of it on my YouTube channel (a bit of profanity in the background though), but I only found out about the 80s Simplex alarm today. If I had known about it, I would’ve taken a peek on the stage to see it in action.
But why is it that whenever I hear a voice-evac fire alarm system actually go off in real life, it’s almost always a Simplex system? :stuck_out_tongue:

We have a 4100U with SmartSync horn/strobes and speaker/strobes. Water damage caused an SLC to short, killing part of the SLC card and generating 235 troubles. The panel and annunciators were going crazy the entire day.

Just a funny thing I thought I’d share from today.