Speaking of TrueAlert horn/strobes and speaker/strobes, I have a strange system to share. Temple Israel in Minneapolis had a Simplex 4010 (4100?) system with TrueAlert horn/strobes (I don’t think there were any speaker/strobes on the system, but I could be wrong). Two years ago, much of the building was remodeled and expanded, and a new Simplex 4100ES system was installed with TrueAlert speaker/strobes. What’s strange, however, is that in the few areas that weren’t remodeled (we’re talking probably 10-20% of the building), the TrueAlert horn/strobes remain. In addition, the areas remodeled aren’t all in one area (in other words, you could be walking between two renovated areas and find yourself in a 1990s hallway), so there are several cases of “lone wolf” horn/strobes in an area otherwise covered by speakers. I don’t know why I didn’t share this system before, but it’s definitely one of the stranger ones I’ve seen.
The Scotiabank Saddledome in Calgary, Alberta, Canada has an EST3 system (panel installed in 2013, due to 2013 flooding) with 1980s Edwards 270-SPO pull stations, unknown smoke detectors, and RARE Edwards Adaptatone 5547-1W Speakers. I don’t know if it is Voice Evac (if anyone has heard it go off, please let me know), but it may be. There are also a few scattered Genesis Horn/strobes around. A
The SIGA-LED by room 206 is disconnected and the others are possibly too. All the strobes are synchronized and all bells do Code-3. Each floors, the gym, and outside, the bells have different reaction times. And the QuickStart is a QuickStart QS4.
My local ALDI is getting renovations, so there’s a chance a new system will be placed. Right now from what I can remember, they have SpectrAlert wall-mounts and BG-10 pulls, with an unknown Notifier system.
Wendy’s in Libertyville has a small Notifier system, with Wheelock Exceeder horn/strobes & strobes and NBG-12 pulls.
Bass Pro Shops connected to Gurnee Mills has a Simplex 4100 system. Alarms are Gentex GMS horn/strobes mounted extremely high off the ground for some reason. Pull stations are Simplex 4099-9003. The bathroom alarms are 4904 strobes.
Gurnee Mills itself has a Simplex 4100U system. All alarms are ceiling mounted Simplex TrueAlert speaker/strobes. Some stores have an excessive amount of TrueAlerts, the most I’ve seen being three in a small rectangular store, while other stores (even being smaller) have no alarm. No pulls are in sight, but smoke detectors are Simplex TrueAlarm. (actually, one pull was seen and it was a 2099 single action pull, so idk)
A gas station store near the mall had no system, rather it has one of those bootleg white SpectrAlerts. :?
I’m surprised that those ripoffs are allowed to be used in systems and set up like an actually fire alarm system. I thought for sure an inspector would see that and tell them to take it down.
Security system?
There was only one and it was by the back of the shop. Plus the gas station store was very small.
But still.
Most likely, it serves as an alarm indicator for a cooler or some other refrigeration device within the store. These often have an alarm signal that activates upon a refrigerant leak.
There is no way it is sort of any approved fire alarm system installation, those things have no listings or certifications for use in life safety systems over here.
Even if it isn’t for an actual alarm system and just a general alarm, I’m surprised that any inspector would still allow it to pass.
I’m surprised there’s a white version of that alarm anyways!
Well, if it isn’t for a life safety system of any kind, there’s no reason an inspector would care about it… unless it has FIRE lettering on it, which is not allowed for anything other than fire alarms.
St. Edith Catholic Church & School (Livonia) - This was previously posted on the old forums prior to getting corrupted. I have since revisited the site for a fish fry and have some new things to share. The facility originally opened circa 1965, with additions over the years.
Annunciators/panels:
One black National Time panel (circa 1990s), model unknown, in a hallway
Detectors:
One hallway near the gym contains Kidde P3010-series smoke detectors. It’s a similar setup to one I saw at St. Robert Bellarmie Church & School in Redford Township years ago, with smoke detectors limited to one or two hallways. It’s possible these may not be wired into the main alarm system at all.
Near the main office, there is one System Sensor 2151-series photoelectric detector in a hallway.
There are a couple of System Sensor 2451-series photoelectric detectors also, including one above the National Time panel.
Pull stations:
One vintage Edwards 270-SPO, with the “LOCAL ALARM” designation and Edwards shield logo, still exists in the main lobby of the school. This most likely was part of the original pull stations to the site.
Most areas now have National Time 541S single-action pull stations.
There is at least one National Time 641 pull station at the church entrance, which was a later addition to the site.
Notification appliances:
The grade school hallway, classrooms, and gymnasium contain National Time horn/strobes and strobes (circa 1990s) with flush plates and ‘bubble’ strobes, rebranded from Faraday. The alarms in the gym are protected by wire guards. The lone horn/strobe in the grade school hallway is mounted on what looked like an old Simplex/Faraday trim plate, along with a metal plate below that from an old pull station.
Some hallways near the church portion of the building, along with some select rooms in that area, contain Wheelock 7002T-24 horn/strobes, all rebranded by National Time. At least one of them is mounted on a trim plate.
A garden/commons area outside contains a weatherproof SpectrAlert Advance (first-generation) horn/strobe.
One grade school hallway contains a gray 6" bell (manufacturer/model unknown), most likely used for general signaling/class change purposes.
What do you mean by first generation SpectrAlert Advance?
I meant to say the original SpectrAlert Advance, not the L-Series. Sorry for the confusion.
It’s okay. I thought you meant like a SpectrAlert Classic or something.
Actually, I don’t think the L-Series is called the “Advance” now that it got an update is it?
Nope. The different generations of System Sensor notification appliances are officially named MultiAlert, SpectrAlert, SpectrAlert Advance and L-Series.
Is the MultiAlert the version that doesn’t have the “FIRE” lettering on it?
I’m 99% sure MultiAlert was the MASS-series (“Multi-Alert Sounder/Strobe”). I think they were offered both before and with the SpectrAlert series until at least the early 2000s, if not later.