Never thought of a 4051 as being obnoxious. Loud sometimes yes but some fire alarms can tend to be louder due to their location. Case in point: the 4051s in the science wing of my middle school were louder than they were anywhere else.
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CF Market Mall has an EST3 system (saw the annunciator), with EST 757-5A-TW (white) horn/strobes and 757-1A-TW (white) horns in the hallways, mounted on the ceiling, with the FIRE lettering vertically. In the stores, there are EST 757-5A-T (red) horn/strobes mounted either on the ceiling or the wall. The Toys 'R' Us in there has Edwards 882-2B horns instead of Integrity horn/strobes, possibly from the 1988 renovation. The Safeway in there has an Integrity horn/strobe in the passage to it, but the main horn/strobes in there are System Sensor SpectrAlert P1224MC, There are also white-painted Edwards flush-mounted Adaptahorns everywhere, not sure if its part of it or not. Pulls are Edwards 270-GAO (not two-stage setup tho) in the main mall, and Grinnell-rebranded Notifier MPS-950B in the Safeway. The strobes are synchronized, but not the horns, and they do code-3
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There was an alarm test on Tuesday, and it is a two-stage set up, and the horns (high volume) for first stage goes in a pattern like 0.8 seconds on, 3 seconds off, 0.8 seconds on, 3 seconds off. The second stage, the Integrities do code-3, and the 882-2B horns in Toys R Us might do Code 3 as well.
My current school has an EST QuickStart (I found the panel yesterday, but it’s not visible, it’s in the caretakers room), with mostly Edwards MB6-24 bells on EST 403-5A-R strobe plates, there is also a bell/strobe in the library computer area, and the music/band room. The gym and CTS shop have Edwards MB10-24 bells on the EST 403-5A-R strobe plates. Also scattered around, there is at least two EST SIGA-LED alarm indicators on the ceiling per floor, they blend in very well. Outside there are Edwards MB6-24 bells, and one EST 405-7A-T strobe by the bike rack. Pulls are all EST SIGA-270, heats are SIGA-HRS, and smokes are SIGA-PS.
Local Apple store has a Simplex system. No pull station, white TrueAlerts, sprinklers hidden in the ceiling, and probably a 4007ES judging by the fact that the building was redone in the past year.
Dollarama in Beacon Heights has an EST system, with an EST G1R-HDVM horn/strobe. Pull is an EST (GE) SIGA-270.
I just got back from Anthro New England 2018, held at the Boston Park Plaza Hotel this year! The building was built in 1927 and had some renovations a couple years ago. The fire alarm system is currently a Simplex 4100ES with voice-evac; next to the check-in area is a 4603-9101 LCD annunciator.
The majority of the alarms are a mix of white Simplex 4903-9167 and 4903-9193 horizontal speaker/strobes and white 4906-9153 TrueAlert speaker/strobes. In the stairwell from the third floor to the mezzanine level, there’s a red 4903 horizontal speaker/strobe, and in one restroom I saw a red 4906-9151 TrueAlert speaker/strobe, and in the small convenience store on the lobby level there’s a 4906-9154 ceiling-mount TrueAlert speaker/strobe (as I’ve said, I often see at least one of these on virtually any modern Simplex voice-evac system from this decade.) Remote TrueAlert strobes (white) are also installed where additional strobe coverage is needed. But on the main ballroom stage, one of the alarms is an old Federal Selectone speaker (probably rebranded by Simplex) on a Simplex 2903 visual plate! (rear-mount, meaning it’s a 2903-9001 or 2903-9101) I am pretty sure it’s still active, given how there weren’t any newer alarms close to it, and since the system is still Simplex.
The majority of the pull stations are a mix of Simplex single-action 2099-9795s with the trim plates and dual-action 4099-9006 pulls with the LED indicator. In the main lobby, one of the pulls has a Stopper II cover, while others don’t. On the stage under the 2903 alarm is a Simplex 4251-30GA pull that is missing the break-glass frame and hammer (and yes, I saw the keyhole behind the lever.)
Smoke detectors were 4098-9714 photoelectric TrueAlarm heads on 4098-9792 bases, but in the backstage area where we all hung out during our “Fur-iety Show” today had a TrueAlarm with the cover plate missing, exposing the black head! Near the 80s Simplex alarm devices on the stage is a Chemtronics 601 heat sensor, without a doubt rebranded by Simplex.
I actually got to hear the system in action yesterday, as they were testing the alarms due to construction on the third floor. The strobes begin to flash, and then it chimes a few times (the newer-style Simplex chime tone), and then the female multi-floor evac message plays twice, and then it goes into the Code-3 tone until the system is silenced. The system is programmed for audible silence, as the strobes kept flashing after the Code-3 tone stopped. Then after a while the chime tone played again followed by the female all-clear message. Then the strobes flashed for a little longer before the system was finally reset. I uploaded a video of some of it on my YouTube channel (a bit of profanity in the background though), but I only found out about the 80s Simplex alarm today. If I had known about it, I would’ve taken a peek on the stage to see it in action.
But why is it that whenever I hear a voice-evac fire alarm system actually go off in real life, it’s almost always a Simplex system? 
We have a 4100U with SmartSync horn/strobes and speaker/strobes. Water damage caused an SLC to short, killing part of the SLC card and generating 235 troubles. The panel and annunciators were going crazy the entire day.
Just a funny thing I thought I’d share from today.
Speaking of TrueAlert horn/strobes and speaker/strobes, I have a strange system to share. Temple Israel in Minneapolis had a Simplex 4010 (4100?) system with TrueAlert horn/strobes (I don’t think there were any speaker/strobes on the system, but I could be wrong). Two years ago, much of the building was remodeled and expanded, and a new Simplex 4100ES system was installed with TrueAlert speaker/strobes. What’s strange, however, is that in the few areas that weren’t remodeled (we’re talking probably 10-20% of the building), the TrueAlert horn/strobes remain. In addition, the areas remodeled aren’t all in one area (in other words, you could be walking between two renovated areas and find yourself in a 1990s hallway), so there are several cases of “lone wolf” horn/strobes in an area otherwise covered by speakers. I don’t know why I didn’t share this system before, but it’s definitely one of the stranger ones I’ve seen.
The Scotiabank Saddledome in Calgary, Alberta, Canada has an EST3 system (panel installed in 2013, due to 2013 flooding) with 1980s Edwards 270-SPO pull stations, unknown smoke detectors, and RARE Edwards Adaptatone 5547-1W Speakers. I don’t know if it is Voice Evac (if anyone has heard it go off, please let me know), but it may be. There are also a few scattered Genesis Horn/strobes around. A
The SIGA-LED by room 206 is disconnected and the others are possibly too. All the strobes are synchronized and all bells do Code-3. Each floors, the gym, and outside, the bells have different reaction times. And the QuickStart is a QuickStart QS4.
My local ALDI is getting renovations, so there’s a chance a new system will be placed. Right now from what I can remember, they have SpectrAlert wall-mounts and BG-10 pulls, with an unknown Notifier system.
Wendy’s in Libertyville has a small Notifier system, with Wheelock Exceeder horn/strobes & strobes and NBG-12 pulls.
Bass Pro Shops connected to Gurnee Mills has a Simplex 4100 system. Alarms are Gentex GMS horn/strobes mounted extremely high off the ground for some reason. Pull stations are Simplex 4099-9003. The bathroom alarms are 4904 strobes.
Gurnee Mills itself has a Simplex 4100U system. All alarms are ceiling mounted Simplex TrueAlert speaker/strobes. Some stores have an excessive amount of TrueAlerts, the most I’ve seen being three in a small rectangular store, while other stores (even being smaller) have no alarm. No pulls are in sight, but smoke detectors are Simplex TrueAlarm. (actually, one pull was seen and it was a 2099 single action pull, so idk)
A gas station store near the mall had no system, rather it has one of those bootleg white SpectrAlerts. :?
I’m surprised that those ripoffs are allowed to be used in systems and set up like an actually fire alarm system. I thought for sure an inspector would see that and tell them to take it down.
Security system?
There was only one and it was by the back of the shop. Plus the gas station store was very small.
But still.
Most likely, it serves as an alarm indicator for a cooler or some other refrigeration device within the store. These often have an alarm signal that activates upon a refrigerant leak.
There is no way it is sort of any approved fire alarm system installation, those things have no listings or certifications for use in life safety systems over here.
Even if it isn’t for an actual alarm system and just a general alarm, I’m surprised that any inspector would still allow it to pass.
I’m surprised there’s a white version of that alarm anyways!
Well, if it isn’t for a life safety system of any kind, there’s no reason an inspector would care about it… unless it has FIRE lettering on it, which is not allowed for anything other than fire alarms.
St. Edith Catholic Church & School (Livonia) - This was previously posted on the old forums prior to getting corrupted. I have since revisited the site for a fish fry and have some new things to share. The facility originally opened circa 1965, with additions over the years.
Annunciators/panels:
One black National Time panel (circa 1990s), model unknown, in a hallway
Detectors:
One hallway near the gym contains Kidde P3010-series smoke detectors. It’s a similar setup to one I saw at St. Robert Bellarmie Church & School in Redford Township years ago, with smoke detectors limited to one or two hallways. It’s possible these may not be wired into the main alarm system at all.
Near the main office, there is one System Sensor 2151-series photoelectric detector in a hallway.
There are a couple of System Sensor 2451-series photoelectric detectors also, including one above the National Time panel.
Pull stations:
One vintage Edwards 270-SPO, with the “LOCAL ALARM” designation and Edwards shield logo, still exists in the main lobby of the school. This most likely was part of the original pull stations to the site.
Most areas now have National Time 541S single-action pull stations.
There is at least one National Time 641 pull station at the church entrance, which was a later addition to the site.
Notification appliances:
The grade school hallway, classrooms, and gymnasium contain National Time horn/strobes and strobes (circa 1990s) with flush plates and ‘bubble’ strobes, rebranded from Faraday. The alarms in the gym are protected by wire guards. The lone horn/strobe in the grade school hallway is mounted on what looked like an old Simplex/Faraday trim plate, along with a metal plate below that from an old pull station.
Some hallways near the church portion of the building, along with some select rooms in that area, contain Wheelock 7002T-24 horn/strobes, all rebranded by National Time. At least one of them is mounted on a trim plate.
A garden/commons area outside contains a weatherproof SpectrAlert Advance (first-generation) horn/strobe.
One grade school hallway contains a gray 6" bell (manufacturer/model unknown), most likely used for general signaling/class change purposes.
What do you mean by first generation SpectrAlert Advance?