Make Up a System (2.0)

I think IDP-PULL-SAs would make more sense rather than PS-SAs since the PS-SA is conventional. The IDP-PULL series is addressable and runs the Farenhyt protocol.

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4903-9127? Or do you mean 4903-9217?

my bad 4903-9217. ill edit it now.

Windamire resort was built in 1988 and features a simplex 2120 with voice
The alarms are simplex 2903-9101’s with 2902 speakers mounted behind them
The pulls are 2099-9782’s
The smokes are 2098-9641’s with 2098-9202 heads
The devices in the rooms are 2902 speaker and gentex smoke alarms

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Ok here I go! :grin:
The Grass valley Middle school was built in 2003
It had for n/as:
System Sensor classics in red horn strobes and Remote strobes
Pulls:
Notifier Nbg12Lx
Panel:
Notifier nfs-3030
Exit Signs:
Dual Lite LTs and some LXs (Hubbell versions)
Emergency Lights
Dual Lite LZ-2 and some lz-30s (Hubbell versions)
In 2005 a dual Lite LT was hit with a baseball bat, it was replaced with a sure-lites combo lpx
In 2008 a fire started in the Home Ec room, the emergency lights in there (3x LZ-2s)
And the fire alarms (2 classics)
Were burnt, they were replaced by a system Sensor advance, and dual Lite EZ-2s
In 2015 a system Sensor classic stopped working, it was replaced with a system Sensor advance
In 2017 a dual Lite LX broke it was replaced with a dual Lite EVE
In 2023 4 classics quit working, they were replaced with Logannetics MW mini horns,
In 2024 the Logannetics MWs were replaced with l series because the MWs were not UL listed (not hate to Logan)
Also in 2024 a dual Lite LX was replaced with a TorchStar exit Sign

i still like the 2120

so that means i stick to the simplex 2120 fire alarm systems (and other systems from the same era)

Building:
An Apartment Complex (named the Garrett R. Lennox Complex) in a fictional U.S. state, (Credits to luennix from the EAS community) Mariatia.

Panels:
Firecom 8500 (or its smaller version; in the auxiliary building of the complex)
Silent Knight IFP-1000 (tied into the Firecom 8500 in the same building)
Early-mid 90’s Radionics System (tied into the 8500 as well, for additional devices then)
Honeywell W940 (in the main complex building)
Honeywell XLS-1000 (tied into to the W940 in the same building)

Notification Appliances:

 Auxiliary Building:
      Atlas Soundolier CVT-17 speakers
      System Sensor SPKWs
                    SPKWLs (both replaced the majority of the CVT-17
                    speakers, with the strobes connected to the
                    IFP-1000 so they would sync)
      Radionics rebranded Wheelock AS-241575s (very early variant)
      Mircom FHS-240Rs (Mircom and Firecom because why not?)
      Wheelock MIZ-24-SLMs (ceiling mount, in the apartments)
               SL1M-24s (ceiling mount, for the bathrooms)

      Main Building:
           Honeywell rebranded Wheelock ET-1080-24-WM
                               EST G1RF-HDVMs
                                   757-7A-T (outside)

Pulls:

 Auxiliary Building:
      All Silent Knight BG-12LXs!

 Main Building:
      Honeywell S464As
      Fire-Lite BG-12Ls (PDI)
      Honeywell XLS-278s

Smokes:

 Auxiliary Building:
      Silent Knight rebranded Fire-Lite Detectors
      Older Edwards detectors (what the Firecom 8500 used)

 Main Building:
      Edwards SIGA detectors
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whats that code language?

chkicen soap and beas

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The Fire Alarm Tech School Was Built In 1985.
It Had For Fire Alarms:
Wheelock 7002T
Nofirer BG-10
Exit Signs Were:
Dual-Lite Exquisite
Emergency Lights
Dual-Lite Units
In 1988 A Dual-Lite Exquisite Was Hit With A Baseball Bat. It Was Replaced With A Dual-Lite KSR.
In 1997 A Wheelock 7002T Broke. It Was Replaced By A Wheelock NS.
In 2000 A Dual Lite LX Was Installed By A New Door.
The System Remains Like This To This Day.
I Hope You Enjoyed :slight_smile:

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Atnaf Bottling Co. plant and warehouse; built in 1955; Williamsville, Indiana

Panel: Autocall master coded system in main electrical room

Initiating devices: Autocall NC break glass stations at all exits; Autocall water flow switch for sprinkler system

Signals: Autocall (rebranded Faraday) 121-U (UNI-PACT) single and dual projector horns in active working areas --run on 12 volts AC; XY “Xylotone” single stroke chimes in front office wing–run on same voltage and are red; Grinnell water motor gongs on exterior

History of Atnaf:

Atnaf was created as a rival of Fanta in 1945 to meet the demands of returning soldiers from the second world war; it quickly became a hit in the midwestern USA, selling millions of cases by 1948. It was a source of regional pride and was consumed by the regional public, from the highest state and local government officials to average housewives. The modern blue version of Atnaf was created in Indianapolis in 1952. they began using local blueberries to formulate the blueberry flavor; it went on sale nationally starting in April of 1959, though it didn’t become common until 1963.

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Oxygenmask2002 on Roblox would like that.

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El Cerritos Building, Irvine, CA

History: The El Cerritos Building was first built on May 3, 1987 and completed on April 15, 1994. It opened its doors on May 12, 1994. The building is about 21-stories tall.

System: Gamewell-FCI FireVac 7200 Series
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The system was installed in 1999, replacing an EST IRC-3

Former N/A’s:
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ADA System Sensor MASS Horn Strobe


ADA System Sensor MASS Speaker Strobe

These were part of the original system, most of the system was later sold at the Alameda Swap Meet in Los Angeles including an EST IRC-3 due to it being “crappy” according to the El Cerritos Company CEO Thomas Maker Mason.

N/A’s:


System Sensor SP2R241575 Wall Mount Speaker Strobe, installed in the offices

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Wheelock ET-1010-R, installed in the stairwells

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Wheelock ET-1080-SLM-24, installed on floors 1-3, and the restrooms

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Wheelock ET80 both red and white, installed in the parking garage

Initiating Devices:


System Sensor i3


Notifier NBG-10

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KI&S (Kalamazoo, Indianapolis & Southern) RR Williamsville yard; built in 1949 to replace four smaller yards scattered about the downtown indstrial districts. This complex is massive (two hump yards–north/southbound–with respective remote towers and arrival/departure areas; two smaller flat yards outside of the classification bowls for local traffic; A massive 36-stall roundhouse–one of the last ones built–attached to a large central shop building for both locomotives and freight cars with respective service facilities for both steam and diesel, eventually all the latter after 1963; a three-story combined yard office and crew dormitory/YMCA directly across the south A/D yard area from the shops; connected by a footbridge. The next few structures are on the northeast end of the yard; order is eastward: a six track-wide freight house for less-than-carload shipments and customers in suburban industrial parks without direct rail connections–next to that is a a large regional cold storage terminal for perishable foods, complete with icing racks for older refrigerator cars; also, in the same general area is an enclosed livestock terminal for local farmers, a bulk cargo terminal for large items (includes a four-track-wide gantry crane) and finally, a four track piggyback ramp (added 1953) for regional trucking companies). All buildings are sprinklered by Grinnell (with respective water motor gongs on exterior of building), with exception of the hump towers.

Roundhouse and shop:

Panel: Edwards coded system

Initiating devices: Edwards 1275 surface-mount break glass coded pull stations; Edwards water flow switch

Signals: Edwards 310 and 314 single and dual projector horns in working areas; two 309 flush horns in cafeteria. Edwards 551T trouble bells in main electrical room and manager’s office.

Yard office and crew dormitory:

Panel: Autocall coded system

Initiating devices: Autocall NY coded pulls; Autocall water flow switch

Signals: Autocall “Executive” single-stroke chimes (lower pitched in dormitory areas)

(no systems in any of the control towers and livestock terminal)

Freight house:

Panel: Faraday coded system

Initiating devices: round surface mount coded pull stations (semi-flush versions in office wing); Faraday water flow switch

Signals Faraday 121/123-U horns in working areas, 2000 series “UNI-PACT” 10 inch single stroke bells in office wing

Perishable food terminal:

Panel: Couch coded system

Initiating devices: Couch (Samson) model 305 surface-mount oval pull stations; Couch waterflow switch;

Signals: Couch 281-A 6 inch single stroke bells

History of the KI&S:

The KI&S was created in 1880 (during the railroad boom) as a bridge line between Kalamazoo and Montgomery, Alabama; it originally started under the name of Kalamazoo and Indianapolis, but later gained Southern when it acquired several other regional RRs in the early 1900s south of the latter city. they weren’t immune from strikes though–they had several in the early 1910s for safer working conditions and better pay/benefits; a four-day system-wide shutdown would occur in May of 1974, after a string of large derailments.

The system would not receive any major upgrades until 1929 with sections of the mainline around the major points receiving centralized traffic control; the whole system received it by 1952. A system-wide radio network was installed in 1950, which greatly reduced the number of train order operators. New classification and freight terminals were built at a few of the major points a few years after World War II ended (also includes shops & roundhouses, most of which are still in existence and are very much active). A couple new bridges and tunnels were also built around this time. Maintenance gangs were fully mechanized (machines from all major manufacturers) by 1957, but were still around for smaller jobs. Continuous-welded rail was installed on all open stretches of its mainline in 1954. The system wasn’t fully dieselized until 1962, with the last steam locomotive being retired from service on one of the branch lines.

Regarding locomotives, they were all-steam until 1947/8, when they started ordering large quantities of road diesels from all four major builders (American Locomotive Co., Baldwin, EMD, and Fairbanks-Morse); only diesels they had at that time and before were switchers. All ALCO cab units were upgraded in 1955 With newer prime movers. Steamers built after 1926 were keepers, 25 of which are preserved at various RR museums and parks in cities along their mainline; the remainder were sold to South Africa. Wrecked and “unrepairables” had all usable/salvageable parts removed and scrapped. Four are still operated in excursion service, but only used on special occasions. their first diesel was an Electro-Motive NW-class from 1939, which was used at their Indianapolis yard complex until 1974; it was replaced with an MP15DC, which still operates to this day. Its first road (mainline) diesel was an A-B-B-A set of EMD FT’s purchased in 1945 and was assigned to helper service in the Great Smoky Mountain range.

Passenger service started a few years after the company was established and consisted of open-ended wood cars and only numbered trains; The first “named” trains were created in 1915–the Blue Jay and Red-winged Blackbird and received heavyweight passenger cars built by Pullman a few years later; they would eventually be used on all trains up until the early 1960s. There were several other “named” trains, most of them various flowers and had different kinds of accommodations. other popular trains included excursions to the Great Smoky Mountains National Park and various Florida-bound trains during the summer months.

The railroad began experimenting with self-propelled passenger cars during the Great Depression (known as “doodlebugs” by enthusiasts) in an effort to reduce operating costs in a period when passenger traffic was relatively low. they would eventually purchase 45 streamlined variants built by Budd in 1950

The first streamliner on the system came in 1949, known as the Lotus, it quickly became the flagship train of the entire system. That unfortunately didn’t last very long as by 1961, ridership on all trains began to decline at a rapid rate. many passengers were traveling by other means of transportation, such as the newly formed interstate highway system. It would soldier on until mid-September of 1966, when the last run was completed (it was discontinued by the end of the month). All other passenger trains were discontinued in 1968, though they would be temporarily reinstated during the 1973 oil crisis and officially discontinued in April of the following year. A small portion of the heavyweights (and a significant number of streamliner cars) were preserved for mainline excursion and charter service after discontinuation, while the remainder were sold to Mexico. Mail trains would run until 1973.

Freight service on the other hand was very plentiful, With the haulage of manufactured products, iron ore, coal, timber, various liquids and chemicals, grain, and perishables. many of these items are still hauled today. Six fast freights (three north; three south) were introduced around 1947, as a way to expedite the movement of consumer products from the northern cities on the line to the Gulf Coast for export. Piggyback service began in 1952, between Indianapolis and Huntsville; expanded north the following year. Concrete loading ramps were installed at all major points on the system, completed in 1955; all of which are still in use. Autorack Service began in 1962, with the purchase of 200 tri-level (which could also have the top level removed for larger-sized vehicles) cars of the SL-SF (Frisco RR) design from Pullman-Standard. Container service began in 1992, shortly after a purchase of 500 five-unit articulated well cars, with respective intermodal facilities being added at the largest population centers along the line.

Starting around 1990, the company was beginning to hemorrhage money due to the loss of manufacturing jobs on both ends of the system–though they’ve been in decline since the prior decade; and the new container service helped keep them afloat during their bankruptcy years. Unfortunately, there still were frequent derailments and lots of deferred maintenance. The company tried promoting new industrial development along the line, which worked to a limited extent; some of these projects never came to fruition, except for three, which are thriving to this day. They ended up in chapter 11 bankruptcy three years later. The KI&S exited bankruptcy in 1998 with a grant from the federal government to rehabilitate and upgrade the whole system for the 21st century. it also incentivized some semiconductor companies to construct new plants along the system, which greatly increased some of the KI&S’s profits.

The company does not plan to merge with any of the big eastern railroads anytime soon, as they’re still thriving. they also treat their employees as if they are a second family–also well managed from the beginning (like how most railroads were in the 1950s). All of their equipment is over 50 years old and still in active service–back when everything was made to last forever, they only thing newer than 1975, which is a General Electric C40-8 from 1988. A true paradise for railfans!

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Large Church built in 1991, renovated in 2011

Original System

  • Panel: Simplex 4002, 20 zones
  • Annunciators: 2x Simplex 4602-8001 Cabinet, 4602-9102 in Bay 1, 4602-9101 in Bay 2
  • Boosters: 3x Simplex 4009-9001
  • Pulls: Simplex 2099-9756 Dual Action T-bar
  • Smokes: Simplex 2098-9201
  • A/Vs
    – Halls and main area: Simplex 2901-9846 + Simplex 4903-9105 (Gentex strobe plate)
    – Classrooms: Simplex 4904-9102 Remote Light

A/V signal coding is 120 BPM march time for the horns and lights, strobes are continuous.

New System (2011)

The system was replaced due to a lightning strike. The main panel and all three boosters were fried, half of the smoke detectors were fried, but the notification appliances were not harmed (divine intervention?? :joy:)

  • Panel: Silent Knight 5208 with 1 SK-5217 10-zone expander (to meet 20 zones)
  • Annunciators: 2x Silent Knight SK-5235
  • Boosters: 3x Silent Knight 5495
  • Pulls: unchanged
  • Smokes: System Sensor 2151
  • A/Vs are unchanged

A/V signal coding is now set to Temporal 3 for horns and lights, strobes are still continuous

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Potato Falls High School

Original 1973 Panel: Simplex 4208 w/ 4-2-4 coding as mandated by AHJ

Notification Appliances: Simplex 4051 on Space Age AV32 (Everywhere except otherwise mentioned)

Space Age V33 (Bathrooms)

Initiating Devices: Simplex 4251-20

Simplex 4255-1

1986: One 4051-AV32 combo was found inoperable, replaced with Simplex 2901-9806 with 4903-9001

1996: 4208 fails, replaced with Simplex 4004 on March Time

New Notification Appliances: Simplex 4903-9219 (Hallways and Classrooms)

Simplex 4904-9176 (Most Bathrooms)

Gentex GXS (Some Bathrooms)

Gentex GMS (Cafeteria)

Gentex 1st gen SHG (Library and Gym)

Simplex 4901-9805 w/ 4904-9176 on retrofit plate (Elective Classrooms)

Initiating Devices: Pull Stations were kept

Smokes and Heats are now Older Truealarms

2006: New Wing Constructed

Panel: Simplex 4100U connected to 4004

Notification Appliances: Simplex 4903-9418 (Everywhere except otherwise mentioned)

Simplex 4904-9332 (Bathrooms)

Initiating devices: Simplex 4099-9003

Detectors are Simplex 4098-9714 and 4098-9733

2010: 4004 in Old Wing fails, replaced with another 4100U connected to the panel in the new wing. Notification Appliances remain the same. Initiating Devices are now the same as in the new wing.

2018: Renovations Occur, both panels removed

New Panel: Simplex 4100ES controlling both wings

Notification appliances: Simplex 49SV-APPLW-BA (Everywhere except otherwise mentioned)

Simplex 49VO-WRF (Bathrooms)

Initiating Devices: Simplex 4099-9006 w/ STI Stopper II

Simplex 4098-9714 and 4098-9733

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My High School’s Future Pool Addition (Opened in 2032):
My brand new high school was just opened at the start of this school year. They didn’t build a swimming pool, but they have a designated spot for them to build one in the future when they need it. They will probably build one within the next 10 years because the old pool’s equipment is nearing the end of its useful lifespan. Based off of the system they have now, this is what they probably will have.

Panel: Connected to the main school’s Siemens Cerberus PRO Modular voice evac system

Notification Appliances: Siemens SC-SS-WW-F and SC-SS-CW-F ACEND speaker/strobes (or possibly the addressable versions)

Pull Stations: Siemens XMS-S addressable pull stations

Smoke Detectors: Siemens OP921 addressable smoke detectors

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Highgate High School

Original 1988 Panel: FCI FC-72 w/ March Time module

Notification Appliances: Wheelock 7002T (Classrooms)
Wheelock C7001T (Hallways)
Wheelock WS1T-24 (Bathrooms)
Wheelock 7001T (Library and Cafeteria)
Federal Signal 450D+VALS (Art and Band Rooms)
Wheelock V7001T (Career and Culinary Arts Rooms)
Faraday 6120/5511 (Robotics and Woodshop Rooms)
Wheelock ASWP (Pool) (Pool was added in the late 90s

Initiating Devices: FCI MS-6 (Everywhere)
FCI CPD-7051 (Everywhere)

New 2004 Panel: Silent Knight SK5820XL Code 3

All Notification Appliances are 75 candela

Notification Appliances: System Sensor Spectralert Classic Ceiling Mount Red (Hallways and Classrooms)
Spectralert Classic Remote Strobes Red (Bathrooms)
Wheelock NS (Red in Library, White in Cafeteria)
Gentex Commander 3 (Elective Classrooms)
Wheelock Weatherproof MT horn only Agent lettering set on Bell (Outside for Supervisory)
Wheelock Weatherproof AS (Outside and Pool)

Initiating Devices: Silent Knight SK-Pull-DA (Everywhere)
System Sensor I3 2-WB (Everywhere except otherwise stated)
System Sensor 2400TH (Cafeteria Kitchen and Culinary Arts room)

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My Town’s Future New Fire Station:
It was just announced that my town is planning on building a new fire station (the third one/Station No. 3) at some point within within the next five years. When exactly depends on the budget. This is because the current response time to the part of town that they want to build the station in is usually about 8-11 minutes. This is not good, especially since this is the fastest growing part of town and they just built my new high school building there.

Possible Fire Alarm System:
Of course, there are many options and possibilities, but I think a Siemens system is the most likely because they are the most popular and they are used in most new buildings in my area. My local Siemens dealer also does many other building services that helps them get contracts. Also, Siemens is already working with the existing fire station buildings.

Panel: Probably a Siemens FC901 or FC 922

Notification Appliances: Siemens SC-HS-WR-F and SC-HS-CR-F horn/strobes in common areas and SC-LFSS-WR-F and SC-LFSS-CR-F low frequency sounder/strobes in sleeping areas.

Pull Stations: Siemens XMS-S addressable pull stations

Detectors: Siemens OP921 addressable smoke detectors

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