This was shot in Flir mode, and a hint is it’s not the main FACP…
Paul
Is it a NAC booster or auxilary power supply of some sort?
I love those Flir cameras.
Could also be a remote panel, a suppression panel, or a DACT. I have no idea what it is though.
Something with batteries for sure!
Name this bell
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It’s a… bell, really! It’s hard to guess bells. I’d be surprised if someone other than Destin or Firefly could name it. :lol:
…aaaand I can’t see it because it must have been a huge pic!
Not just one… TWO huge pictures!
Say it ain’t so! :shock:
I may not even know what it is even if I could see it. Unless its something I own or have seen somewhere, the chances of me having any knowledge on it are slim.
Looked like it may have been an Ademco bell of some sort.
Name this one. No seriously…please name it. It came without any sort of label and I couldn’t find any literature on it online. I assume maybe its an LNG-1W…is there such a thing?
Yep, there sure is. And yeah, I’m pretty sure it is an LNG-1W. I saw a few on eBay.
Whatever it is, it’s against code. Probably a custom run for some specific site someone had signed off on.
Here’s the datasheet for the LNG series of pulls. It makes no specific mention of a white unit, but the fact that it specifies that the color of the pull is red makes me think that Notifier did, in fact, offer a white version: https://www.notifier.com/salesandsupport/documentation/Datasheets/DN_1631.pdf
So when are non-red pulls allowed? The only other non-red pulls I can think of are the http://firealarms.tv/collection/gamewell-m69/ Gamewell M69 (discontinued, obviously), http://firealarms.tv/collection/rsg-rms-1p/ RSG RMS-1P (which I’ve actually saw a white, Simplex rebranded version of before), and the http://firealarms.tv/collection/notifier-bng-1/ Notifier BNG-1 (which I do see quite a bit of, my school has them, for example).
Well, I guess the red requirement is somewhat new. In 2010 to line up with the new mass notification sections added to the code, they made the requirement that fire alarm pulls be red. They did this so you could have other pulls of different colors for different things (ie: blue for weather alerts, yellow for lockdown, whatever). In 2007 and before the only pull stations allowed on a system were specifically for fire alarm. Weather pulls weren’t allowed (although a lot of systems have them via AHJ approval), 2007 introduced mass notification to the code and wasn’t really comprehensive yet and just kind of tacked on to different sections. 2010 completely reorganized the code with specific provisions for it.
There’s a requirement in the code that pull stations be of contrasting color to whatever background they’re mounted too, and that’s been in the appendix for a long time (since at least 99, I would have to dig up older codes to check before that).
That actually makes a lot of sense, standardizing different colored pull stations for different purposes, I never really considered that before. Is the contrasting color rule ever actually enforced? Seems like all of the white/silver pull stations that I’ve seen have also been mounted on white walls. The white Simplex pull that I did see was at an art museum, so it makes sense if they were trying to minimize distractions in the background though, but it was probably installed before the 2010 changes.
I believe the contrasting color requirement is in the code itself, not just the appendix. Remember, the appendix is only explanatory material and cannot necessarily be enforced. I’ve written up a few red pull stations on red walls before, most people are unaware of the requirement. The easiest fix for this is to just paint a white box around the pull station.
It’s in the latest versions of the code now, it was in the appendix forever before that.
So U8oL0, it just depends on when the system was installed and what years of the code that jurisdiction follows. 
Some cities still go by 1999, others adopt the newest codes as they’re released.
To Chris+s and The Big Green,
Good call on the Flir shot being of a PAD/NAC panel.
It is of a Siemens PAD-3 NAC panel, which is cooking a set of 12v 7amp/hr batteries to a toasty 172 Deg. F! One of our Electricians was shooting the Ac distribution panels and looking for hot spots on loose terminals in the electrical closets on each floor of one of our eleven story dorm’s and caught this and called me over.
There is a PAD-3 per floor that powers the strobes and the dorm room smoke detector sounder bases. The system is a: full voice Siemens XLS detection system with smoke/heat/water flow/elevator recall/Firefighter telephone, with jacks per elevator car, stairwell landing, lobby, elevator penthouse and fire pump room.
The PAD-3 did not put the XLS in trouble even though the charge current being extremely high for a supposedly current limited unit in stand-by mode. The batteries were so hot that they fused completely together, and swelled so much that they had to be pried out, and only when the battery leads were disconnected, that it then signaled a battery fault on the XLS panel in the lobby…… I’m working with Siemens on software and hardware checks as to why this did not signal a high current fault?
Paul
I never see pad3s with that shield thing on, otherwise I think I would have guessed it.
I’ve got a good one for you guys. I mentioned in my collection topic that I had recently got an alarm similar to one I am looking for. Rather than post a pic first, I’ll post the model number and see if anyone can guess what brand it is. This alarm is very close to one on my wish list, but it has slight differences.
The model number is L31-70A