Nest Smoke Alarm - The Most Advanced on the Market!

The Nest Smoke Alarm is an advanced technological smoke alarm. It utilizes many different technologies such as Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Artificial Intelligence, and so on. They are expensive yet innovative. Installing an entire system of Nest smoke alarms in a home can have some of the benefits of a fire alarm control panel-based system. Some of these can be described: Where is the fire? A fire alarm control panel’s display will tell you where the fire is, but in the case of a real fire it may be faster to find the fire rather than check the FACP. However, Nest smoke alarms are intended residential, FACP-based systems are not. In a fire, the color-changing ring of light around the button on the smoke alarm detecting smoke will turn red and it will ding or beep and say there is a fire in the (detector zone name). All the other smoke alarms in the house will play the same audio, but the light ring will be yellow. To take the system out of alarm, press the button in the middle of the ring of light on the smoke alarm detecting smoke. Another nice feature is that they can sense a trouble in the system and will notify you via a message sent to your smartphone by using their Wi-Fi connectivity feature. The detectors also have motion detection in them and use this to monitor your lifestyle and use the data gathered for artificial intelligence features. An entre system can tie into a Nest thermostat. The Nest thermostat is literally a thermostat to control temperature in your house but it is very advanced compared to a normal one due to its ability to tie in with the fire alarm system, although the most advanced I’ve seen I a Honeywell multicolor display touch screen thermostat. The Nest thermostat overall in relation to the Nest smoke alarms is like a fire alarm control panel. Your smartphone, however, can change more settings of the smoke alarms than the thermostat. Enough with reading about them, lets see them:

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How does a thermostat act in any way as a FACP?

It isn’t even required to have nest smokes, so I have no idea where you got your reasoning for that.

Is this is even a legit post or has this user been compromised by a bot?

Why would a bot care about the Nest Protect?

I was more referring to automatic targeted advertising. Like the “I started working at home…” ones. It would’t do much good for an ad bot to put dishwasher ads on a fire alarm board, would it?

Who? Me? I know it sounds like an advertising campaign or something of the like because it’s typed without spelling errors and such but autocorrect helped me with it.

From one of the videos I watched, the thermostat is more of a way for the data of lifestyle to interact with Nest Protect, if you have it.

Well, judging by the wall of text we wondered if it was actually you typing it. I mean, the only time I’ve ever typed that much text in one sitting, I was writing an essay in English the day before it was due.

All of that took me about 1 hour to type. I am pretty dedicated to the fire panel forums once I log on.

In that case I apologize!

It is a good thing that residential smoke detector systems are moving past just “hear the noise and leave.” Especially for those (most) people who will check their whole house for fire if they hear a smoke alarm. It gives them the exact area to search in.

Consumer reports didn’t have many good things to say about the nest smoke alarm, starting with the poor detection tests and ending with the high price.

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Addressable Photoelectrics for da win!

I kind of figured that would be the case. It’s the classic too good to be true gyp.

Honestly, I think that a really good residential fire protection system should include a small conventional panel or combined fire-burglary panel, a few i3s or i4s, and some low-frequency sounders.

I’m skeptical about the Nest Protect for several reasons. It just doesn’t seem like something that works very well. I’d have to see one in person and test it to determine for myself. It already has had one major problem with it: the wave to hush feature “false-silencing”. I’ve also heard it has random false alarm problems due to glitches with the wi-fi interconnect. This is what happens when gadget developers (the Nest thermostat is a gadget, really) try to make a life safety system.

Sure, it has lots of features that make it “smart” and “fancy” but at the same time it lacks several features that could be useful:

  1. False alarm reduction algorithm – Compares readings from the smoke, heat, and CO sensors to quickly and accurately recognize actual fire conditions. System Sensor’s IntelliQuad and Acclimate detectors have this capability, and so does the Simplex TrueAlarm Photo/Heat detector when used with the CO sensor base.

  2. Hardwired interconnect which works in a power failure – The wireless interconnect relies on an active Wi-Fi network and if that goes down, so does the interconnect. Therefore, have a hardwired option. I’ve heard that Gentex’s S1209, C1209 & GN-503 detectors’ interconnect somehow works in a power failure but never confirmed this. Other brands’ interconnects go down in a power failure.

  3. Relay Output that works in a power failure – for turning on strobe lights or tripping a home security system. The accessory relay modules that BRK/First Alert, Kidde, and USI sell do not work in a power failure since they wire to the interconnect. Gentex’s approach to this problem is to put the relays right into the detector, so they do work from batteries.

  4. Battery charger – Wouldn’t it be nice if it charged itself up after running on battery power for a while, and only notified you of a low battery if it isn’t holding a charge anymore?

  5. 520 Hz Low frequency sounder – There’s already a speaker circuit inside it, which is used for the voice, so why not?

I Agree totally!

Well, new opinion time.

I have a small test box that I made which has a Gentex GN-503FF photo/co detector and an assembly to inject smoke from a can of smoke. I have a friend who has 5 Nest Protect smoke detectors in his house and I went over to his house today to test them. Placed the Nest Protect into the box and sealed the lid. Sprayed smoke from the can for 5 seconds and then started a stopwatch. Here’s the test result:

00:11 → Nest Protect “Heads Up” pre-alarm

00:16 → Nest Protect full alarm

00:23 → Gentex GN-503FF full alarm

We then tested the other detectors in his house and they all went off fairly quickly. There’s a few quirks though – there’s some lag on the wi-fi interconnect between the other detectors but they do eventually activate. Interestingly though, the horns on all the alarms are synchronized.

Now that I’ve actually seen one and actually tested one, my opinion now is that it is a pretty decent product. Still has a few shortcomings they ought to work on but other than that it appears to do the job at a bare minimum. If I had one of my own I’d give it some more testing to come up with a definitive conclusion. One such test would be generating CO and seeing how well it responds.

I’d still take a commercial grade fire system over them, though.

that’s $500 worth of detectors. :shock: for some extra options on something you’ll hopefully never use. :lol: i hate to be a Luddite here because they seem cool, but they’re expensive and gimmicky imo which isn’t a good combo for a life safety device.

are there any 520hz residential smoke detectors out? (outside of the few super expensive ones)

Let’s see here. The nest smoke detectors are internet connectable, have a speaker, and can communicate with the Nest thermostat.

In January 2014 Nest Labs was purchased by Google.

How long will it take for Google to use temperature information from the Nest thermostat to collect information about your HVAC system? Then use the speakers in the smoke detectors to broadcast advertising for companies that can repair or replace your HVAC system.

Big Brother is watching!! Be afraid - be very afraid!!

Not yet but you know it’s gonna happen. I do know that First Alert has started making smoke alarms with 500 Hz piezoelectric sounders in them, not the pure square wave that NFPA wants.

Holy crap I never thought of that.

lol, the sad part is, I can totally see that happening. Not to sound like a paranoid conspiracy theorist, but that’s of several reasons why I avoid buying all of the latest Apple or Google gadgets. No thanks…Facebook is bad enough giving out my email address and spamming the hell out of me.

Kind of a neat smoke alarm though!