It turns out that the LED L-series does support FWR, not sure about the commander 5s
Where are we seeing this? In general, the alarms should be able to be a drop in replacement for existing Gentex devices. I donāt see spec sheets posted for these yet, and wonder too if this is similar to how the L-Series LED was originally misrepresented as not compatible with FWR but they actually are.
Recently with some search term manipulation, I found a teen month old LinkedIn post that stated the current draw of the LED L-Series doing T4 @ 30 cd. Itās not much, but it is more proof that they can indeed do Temporal 4
Did it mention what makes it do t4 (sync pulse?)
Huh, decided to put the strobe on the top instead of the bottom like with the xenon versions did they? Different but unique for sure (& of course it definitely works too). I for one would say that thatās not too bad: it could certainly be worse!
Placing the strobe in that position seems like it would interfere with voice intelligibility since it obstructs the center of the speaker. It almost looks like this was done because there are plans to make a square-shaped speaker in the future.
It might, but I personally donāt believe Simplex when it comes to their lame excuse of āwe made the TrueAlertES ceiling speaker/strobe look stupid so the strobe wouldnāt obstruct the speaker for best audibilityā, especially since there have been other such speaker/strobes (including those by Simplex themselves: remember the older TrueAlert ceiling speaker/strobes?) that sound perfectly fine even with the strobe in front of the speaker (including those new LED L-series ones too Iām sure).
In my opinion, the L-Series LED just looks like complete garbage. Why canāt we make the strobes LED without making it look so ugly.
I think Wheelock, Edwards, and even Simplex (and Gentex) did a decent job at making decent looking LED devices. System Sensor tried to rush too much and just ended up slapping an LED strobe on a normal L-Series instead of completely redesigning the product like the should have.
That seems to be the general consensus among most when it comes to System Sensorās new LED L-series NAs & in fact a lot of LED devices that have come out in years past. I for one however think theyāre nice: I just hope they perform as well & are as reliable as their design is nice!
Sort of: it would make sense to reuse the original xenon L-series designs since they work, but maybe they could have spent more time on the strobe designs (heck if anything maybe they should have kept the original designs just with the strobe slightly redone to work with an LED instead of a xenon strobe tube: why no manufacturers have seemingly thought to do this instead of spending copious amounts of time, money, & effort on completely new designs (as much as they technically work & are nice-looking) I have no idea). Youāre certainly right about all those other brands though!
From your video on the LED L-Series, the images of the speaker strobe look the same to the one in the video. (Iāve heard someone say that the rest of the LED L-Series products are just concepts and the horn strobes are the finalized products at the moment.)
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Also, can yāall stop ranting about the design of the LED L-Series?? Yes I know the strobe looks ugly IMO but Iām not gonna complain much about it. The products exceed my expectations (e.g. the new weatherproof devices to replace the Advances) so in the future I can use these devices for my house fire alarm system.
System Sensor now has UL listed LED chime strobes.
https://productiq.ulprospector.com/en/profile/154770/uukc.s4011?term=system%20sensor%20p2r&page=1
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I really donāt see why these are considered ugly. (This is at an all-new Blank Street Coffee location at The Hub on Causeway in Boston.)
It was recently accidentally discovered that the alarms do have T4 capabilities built in, likely needing a future sync module to access said feature. Also of note, the strobe flashes yellow in CO modeā¦
Ever since LED strobes came into existence, Iāve been wondering if multicolored versions would be introduced for use-cases like thisā¦ now we know!
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It seems like T4 is affected by Voltage, rather than by Sync module. It seems from a range of 8-10 Volts is what sets it off in this mode. (Note the singular 9V Battery) I think any voltage over 12 Volts and it triggers its Fire Alarm Function. (As this is how the Xenon ones work.)
I wonder how a FACP or other device would drop the Voltage to 9v in a CO Event, or how the Yellow strobe got approved (as the codes are weird and jurisdiction specific when it comes to colored strobes.) I have Many questions on how System Sensor Pulled this off honestly.
Actually no. Several enthusiasts on the discord tried to recreate it and it did not occur. The consensus is that there was just the right power fluctuation upon initially powering the alarm to fool the alarm into thinking it was receiving a sync signal
That might just be the white balance on the camera