New LED System Sensor L-Series

OP stated in the video and has confirmed on Discord that it indeed flashed yellow.

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Are there any recordings of the horns doing broadband T4? The video you embedded as well as the video discussed in this thread both show 3000 Hz T4. Also, the latter recording does not appear to have yellow flashing, so the flash color might be a separate component of the new sync protocol (possibly for amber MNS alerts), or it might be related to the FCP candela.

It happened to mine also when I had a slight disconnect while powering my p2grled and it made temporal 4 3000hz instead of the selected tone.

Did your strobe flash yellow? It looked white in the video you recorded.

Mine didnt it was normal strobe that flashed I used 12 volts

The yellow flash is probably a separate feature that is meant to replace dual strobes for combined fire/MNS systems. Many online photos of LED L-Series strobes have a yellow component in the middle of the strobe lens, which might be how the flash becomes yellow.

was the strobe selector on fcp? maybe I used to low voltage and wrong strobe setting

To be fair, that one was set to an invalid tone.

Did that happen when it was set to a valid tone?

That would make the most sense, however I fail to see how that would be allowed on fire-marked devices. Guess we’ll see when Honeywell releases new information or products…

It probably isn’t allowed to be used in general, but it is easier to make one strobe board for use on all devices instead of making separate fire/MNS strobe boards. Also, a FIRE-marked device could later have an ALERT bezel added to it, making the yellow flash usable, and on a FIRE-marked device, the yellow flash could potentially be used for private mode.

when it did t4 when I switched it to a normal tone, It didnt do yellwow strobe but ill have to expirement some more to see if i need to select fcp on the strobe selector Mine is a p2grled so maybe it also only works on the p2rled

I figured the t4 out! It says on the back of the alarm that 1,2,5,6 sounds are Temp3/TEMP4 ! even in broadband

sorry for bad video: IMG_2471.MOV - Google Drive

According to the speaker strobe manual, these speaker strobes will have lower sound output than the old speaker strobes. The 2-watt tap will now output 83 dBA, previously achievable by the 1-watt tap (which now outputs 82 dBA).

Just got a “technical bulletin” from System Sensor via email, notifying customers that System Sensor identified a flaw concerning the ability of the LED L-Series’ mounting plates to correctly detect when a device is removed: only been out a year or so & already a “recall” of sorts (goddang Honeywell I tell you…). Here is the bulletin in question in case anybody is interested in reading it:
TB25.1SS_System Sensor AV Mounting Plate with L-Series.pdf

The probing test ports are revolutionary for all system sensor horn strobes. The xenon horn strobes never had a feature. System sensor is the only company to design something like this.

Based on this list, it looks to me like the issue can actually affect any System Sensor L-Series or LED device produced between 6/3/24 and 10/31/24.

Yeah, I wouldn’t personally install a System Sensor device right now (or for that matter any Honeywell product but that’s a lot more unavoidable). I would go for Gentex preferably or Wheelock if I needed LED devices. The same goes for Simplex/Autocall products (particularly their TrueAlertES devices, as they seem to be having a high failure rate as well.

Oh? Jeez…

Same here, though given Wheelock really isn’t that good nowdays given their parent (much like Honeywell & JCI) I’d likely only go with Gentex or Edwards (probably the former given they’re seemingly the only manufacturer to still make 4-wire NAs, though perhaps if Honeywell finally solved these quality control issues for good maybe I’d go with System Sensor L-Series NAs too, even if not all of them are available as 4-wire models).

I saw LED L-Series devices yesterday at SeaWorld Orlando.

Yeah, I agree with you.

As a side note, Wheelock actually does still make a 4-wire device: the ELMTS. That’s why Siemens is still rebranding that device and selling it despite their new devices having almost the same features. They still need to offer a device that can replace their older 4-wire devices while still using the same Siemens sync protocol.

Glad you do: seems like nobody cares about once-great brands suffering under the rule of their parent companies these days.

Oh, really? Okay. Huh…(one would think that Eaton/Wheelock wouldn’t bother given 2-wire is practically standard nowdays (even though non-fire applications might still need 4-wire & thus why it’s a good idea to make notification appliances that can be either, like Gentex’s)