I’ve noticed too, especially the FX2202, other than the front panel and the power board, it looks to be a near 1:1 match.
I don’t know if JSB and SaftURA picked their parts from the same OEM but there’s definitely some common ancestry between these two.
Yes
Interesting tho how these 2 companies share designs somehow
The Honeywell W940
The image is from Reddit, and not mine.
Ah yes: found that myself some time back. A monster isn’t it? (in a good way though of course) Would love to know what each part there does.
That panel is most likely card based so most of those cabinets hold strips of zone cards
I remember seeing that picture on Facebook a couple of days ago, very interesting panel. Iirc that’s the predecessor to fs-90 " delta-net "
I took this off the wall a few weeks ago. It’s been out of service for awhile. I have a couple more of these and some expansion panels too.
I got another obscure panel to share: the FCI FCID.
This was FCI’s first addressable panel, first produced back in the late 1980s. It’s a predecessor to the 7200 series. Unlike later FCI panels, the FCID originally used Fenwal addressable protocol, with 60 devices per SLC loop. The FCID can handle up to 4 SLC loops for a maximum of 240 points per panel.
Later on, there was the FCID-A (used System Sensor CLIP) and FCID-X. Regardless of the type, there’s next to no documentation on the FCID. I was able to get a troubleshooting guide from someone on Reddit, and someone else has a binder full of documents I wanna try and get.
It would be really nice to get this panel all normal. It does power on and alarm when I’ve tested it. Biggest hurdle would be programming, as it seems to be reliant on software to program anything. However, the 7200 has autoconfigure, and I suspect the FCID might as well. In any case, I don’t think there’s much if any footage of the FCID in action online. I shot a short video of mine in action.
FCI was actually a subsidiary of Kidde (which owned Fenwal as early as 1977) in 1987, based on this NFPA ad. However, their very next ad in 1988 does not mention that they are a subsidiary of Kidde, and it was also the first ad for the FCID. The “Subsidiary of Kidde” mark was absent from their logo in this 1982 ad, but it was added in this 1982 ad.
Interesting, that’d explain the use of Fenwal devices. Even for conventional detectors, FCI used Fenwal stuff too.
So going by that FCI was a subsidiary of Kidde from 1982 to 1987 then? (which if true has got to be a record for shortest-lived company ownership in the life safety industry)
That’s what it looks like, although FCI could have still been a subsidiary of Kidde without having it directly listed under their brand name.
Also, Gamewell was part of Cerberus from 1984 to 1990, which is only slightly longer than FCI was part of Kidde (assuming this information is correct).
