Some New Interesting Panels

Recently, I was able to get ahold of some very unique and very obscure old Honeywell panels. I’m not sure how well-known these panels are amongst the community here, but I know information on them is pretty difficult to find, and there doesn’t seem to be too many of these left in service anymore. Either way, I am very happy to have these and give these panels a second lease on life.

First up is a Honeywell FS90. This panel was released by Honeywell in 1986 as part of the “DeltaNet” line - a full building automation system offered by Honeywell at the time - as a complete fire and security system. These panels were extremely flexible and highly customizable, and could range from small conventional systems to very large and complex networked systems with addressable loops and support for voice evacuation. These panels were in production from their introduction in 1986 to roughly the early 2000s when they were superseded by the XLS-1000. This particular FS90 was manufactured in 1994 and consists of two bays of cards. Oddly enough, this panel did not have any zone or bell cards in it when it was installed originally. According to the stickers on the card cage covers, this panel had a main control card, a communications card, and a whole bunch of relay cards. I’m not sure how or what this was being used for originally, but I do know this panel was a part of a much, much larger Honeywell system. I did obtain two addressable loop cards, a display board for the addressable loops, and two zone cards - I’ll be adding these into the panel soon.

Next is a Honeywell W939. This panel was released by Honeywell somewhere between 1977 - 1979. This panel was mainly intended to be a very simple, single-zone conventional system that came in two models - the W939A, and the W939B. The W939A had only one zone, an alarm relay, and no signal circuits. Honeywell offered this version as more than less a smoke detector power supply, or really just a panel for monitoring smoke zones and reporting back to a master control panel. The W939B, which is what I have here, also only has one zone, but has two signal circuits as well. This panel was mainly offered in a small cabinet that just contained the main board, with no options for expansion modules other than a marchtime coder that could be mounted on the rear of the main control board chassis. However, the cabinet I have here is not that. This cabinet has room for up to five expansion modules. The main control board is in the bottom row, and there are two audible expansion modules in the 3rd and 4th rows for additional bell circuits. Oddly enough, I obtained a whole bunch of literature for this panel, ranging from sales sheets, installation manuals, wiring diagrams, etc. Absolutely none of those mention anything about the style of cabinet I have, nor do they mention this panel being capable of using expansion modules. So I’m assuming what I have here is extremely uncommon. I have some additional modules I can add to this panel, including another audible expander module, and a zone expander module (if this panel is compatible with it).

Lastly is a Honeywell W940. Also released by Honeywell between 1977 - 1979, this panel served as Honeywell’s flagship offering from its introduction until it was replaced by the FS90 in 1986. Much like the FS90, these panels could be very large and complex, with support for voice evacuation and integration with Honeywell’s Delta 1000 building automation system. These panels were also completely modular (similar to other panels of the time), making them extremely flexible. This particular W940 was never installed or in service - this panel was used as a demonstrator unit its entire life. It has one zone expander module, and was manufactured in 1984 according to some of the dates on the internal components. Unfortunately, this panel did not come with a door - however, I may be able to obtain one in the not-too-distant future. Out of all three panels, this is the only one I’ve cleaned up completely so far. I’ve even repainted the back can - something I plan on doing with the other panels as well.

In additional to these panels, I also got a massive 2” binder full of documentation related to the W939 and W940. I’ll share some pictures of that below.

I want to give a special thanks to @pilot for helping me obtain all of this - it would have not been possible without his immense help.

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I remember thesdx with his FS90. Can’t believe its been that long. I grew up on those videos.

System Sensor didn’t release addressable devices until 1987, so these loop cards were probably released after the initial release of the FS90. Do these loop cards operate independent of the main FACP similar to the Notifier AIM200?

I think you might be the second person on this forum to own one of these.

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Dang, nice job in saving all of those panels from going to a dump! Perhaps you ought to have all that documentation scanned so it can be digitally preserved too!

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Nice and informative write up. Honeywell did have the FS-20 panel that was offered between the W-940 and the FS -90. It is a conventional panel with four-zone N module cards and other modules that communicated with the Delta front ends.

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Same here, actually his videos were what really sparked my interest with collecting, along with some of the other OG enthusiasts on YouTube and here on the forums. Crazy how fast time flies….

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Right, I believe the addressable loop cards were released around 1988-1989. One of my loop cards is dated 1995, while the other is dated 1988 (the PCBs have date codes stamped on them).

And that I’m not sure of. I believe they do operate independently of the main control card. I believe the loop cards have their own microprocessor and memory independent of the main control card, and are programmed via Honeywell’s CAE configuration software from the time using EPROMs and a chip burner.

That is certainly the plan, will take me a bit since there is a ton of pages but I’ll add a thread here once I do that. I also obtained some really, really cool Simplex documentation from the early 1990s that I’ll scan and upload as well. I have a whole bunch of manuals for addressable MapNet II devices, 2902/2901/4903 series audible/visuals, 4120/4100 systems, and a couple of really neat sales brochures from the time, too.

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@MASS2475ADA, someone else owns a W940 now. And they got manuels.

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Ah okay, nice. Yeah.

Oh? Very cool! Would love to see all that! (nice job in obtaining it too, however you did!)

Yep: get to talking you two! (heh)

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Congratulations on getting a Honeywell W940! Now there are 2 Privately owned W940s!

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In addition to the Honeywell panels I mentioned, I also was able to bring home two Pyrotronics System 3 panels. I sold one of them to another collector just recently, and ended up keeping this one. This one is a CP-35 with two ZU-35 zone cards, and one AE-30U audible expander card. It also has a BC-35 battery charger module. Judging by some of the dates I’ve found on the components, this panel is from 1985, so it is now 41 years old as of this year. Much like the other panels, I plan on repainting this one and restoring it to as close to factory-new condition as possible.

Fun fact about these panels - unlike most other panels, the zones are not supervised via an end of line resistor, but rather an end of line capacitor. This panel uses 50uf, 50v capacitors to supervise the zones. I believe the System 3 is the only panel to do this, rather neat!

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Nice! You don’t see many of these System 3s around these days. Also I really love how that FS90 panel looks.. Almost feels like a front panel from a mainframe computer, either way it’s, very interesting to say the least.

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Completely random but, that’s something I’ve always found unusual on the System 3, over there in Europe we did get a few panels that used end of line capacitors (of which I’ve got two, first one being a Sicli TSI-12 and the second a Merlin Gerin SSI 104), mostly Cerberus Guinard and Siemens panels, I have a Cerberus Guinard CS1110 that uses non-polarized capacitors to terminate the zones.

Even weirder, Siemens has released a panel (called the Cerberus BC11) in my country that uses TVS diodes to close the line loops, even more unusual than the System 3.

Sorry for the off-topic rambling, everyone.

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