What information due you have to back up that claim? I’m not saying that you’re wrong or anything, I’m just curious where you heard it from.

What information due you have to back up that claim? I’m not saying that you’re wrong or anything, I’m just curious where you heard it from.
Jake.

That is DEFINITELY a late 1970s/early 1980s -style annunciator. It is kind of hard to tell what panel it would go to if you don’t know when the building was built. Simplex 4051s were still used on new installation in 1979-1980.
I believe Simplex switched to the more contemporary logo like that on their panels and annunciators around late 1977. The elementary school down the street from where I live has a 4207 system from 1978 with that logo on the panel.
This particular building was built in different phases between 1905 and 1931, so that definitely won’t be an indication of when this system was installed. :lol:
Strangely enough (since you mentioned that these are late '70s/early '80s-style annunciators), another building on campus has a very similar annunciator even though it was built in 1987/1988.
I’ve seen those annunciators installed mostly with 2001 panels.
They suck in the sense that you have to run a wire for every lamp and every button.
Another update: I found out a few minutes ago that my neighbor in the room across from me burnt popcorn. And the interesting thing is it only set off the sounder base in his room. I know it’s just the way that it’s set up. There’s probably some timed delay or other parameters that are set before it prompts a general evacuation, but honestly that’s really convenient for a dorm building. Burnt food is probably the most common false alarm and they have the alarm confined to a single room. I just thought that was cool.
Strangely enough (since you mentioned that these are late '70s/early '80s-style annunciators), another building on campus has a very similar annunciator even though it was built in 1987/1988.
I wouldn’t be surprised if those annunciators were still in use until the end of the 1980s. That building probably has a 4002 system.
The Alarms at my School
System Sensor MASS Horn Only
2 Edwards Buzzer Adaptahorn
Edwards Adaptabel next to the Horns
2 Wheelock MT’s on Horn
Pull Stations
Very Old Edwards 270-SPO
And a Notifier
Couple Things All alarms except the bells Are on 2400HZ Continous and Cali. Code MT’s are on Code 3 Horn
They did a thorough renovation to the old secret passage and closets in one part of the Student Union at Massasoit Community College, turning it into a modern office section. The old Standard alarm that was in that area is now gone, and they also removed the Faraday pull that was there (now there are NO pull stations in this office area!) The new alarm signals in this area are SpectrAlert Advance horn/strobes (they are probably P2Rs), though a conference room has a remote strobe version instead. There are also Notifier FSP-851 smoke detectors installed throughout the office area (on the newer conical bases.) The rest of the building’s alarm devices are the same.
I am not surprised they went with those alarm devices, since the college now mostly uses Notifier products, and the building already had a Notifier AFP-200 panel that was installed in the late '90s/early 2000s (they probably added addressable modules to it or something.)
Now I’m hoping they begin to install more remote strobes around the campus, preferably in the restrooms!
My school has Edwards Genesis wall and ceiling mount horns strobes. ( Wall mount for certain areas and ceiling for the “pearl” building classrooms ). For the main hallways and main classrooms they have Wheelock AS-24s and RSS strobes in the bathrooms.
For pull stations: Edwards 270 SPOs in the pearl building and Fike Pulls in the main building.
For detectors: they have this unknown ( and old ) heat detector in the pearl building and sprinklers in the main building. I just discovered this today: they have EST ionization detectors on the portables. I will get pictures soon. (or you could go check out my forum for The pictures).
I will get pictures soon. (or you could go check out my forum for The pictures).
That’s advertising.
Why not just create an album, and post a link here? Did you even read the rules?
(or you could go check out my forum for The pictures).
You be careful…
We do have a rule against this…
My new office building has a variety of different alarms. Don’t know the old ones, but the newest ones are SpectrAlerts. My old office building has Gentex’s. They went off once when we were there. Just loud enough to be annoying, but not loud enough to be terrifying or cause headaches.
Last night, I went to the high school I will be attending next year, and got pictures of some alarms. The fire alarm system is a 3-bay Simplex 4002, probably set to continuous. I think there are about 14 or 15 zones on it as well.
Note: This system has taken a lot of vandalism in recent years, namely drawings on the pull stations and skateboard decals on the bells. In the picture of the Mircom pull station, the arrow is supposed to be an outline, but it was filled in with sharpie. I would also assume that the ziptie on the Simplex smoke is also vandalism.
This is a Simplex 2901-9724 motor bell. From what I can tell, they are the only NAs in the school. Located in all hallways, as well as in the gymnasium, band room, and the wood and metal shops.
This is a Mircom MS-301 pull station. These are the main pull stations in the school. They are placed by each exit door, as well as in the gymnasium, hallways and the exits from the shops.
Older Simplex pulls. There are only about 3 or 4 of these left in the school.
Located by the gymnasium entrance. Pictured is a Simplex bell, a Mircom pull, and a Simplex 4602 series RCU/SCU annunciator.
Note: The thing beside the annunciator is not a graphic annunciator; it’s a framed zone map.
A Simplex bell beside a disconnected Edwards Adaptahorn in the Home Economics hallway.
A Simplex ionization smoke detector. Located in the Home Economics hallway.
An old and unfortunately disconnected Edwards Adaptabuzzer located in the Shops hallway.
Final note: The Adaptahorn and Adaptabuzzers were part of a class change system, which also contained Edwards single-stroke chimes in larger classrooms and shorter hallways. Now, the school uses a Westminster chime over the PA system.
I went ahead and merged your post with the preexisting alarms at school topic.
I have no media to post but I might do it tomorrow. I go to East Noble Middle School and the system has these.
Space Age Electronics HA24D horns on VA4 75cd strobe plates. (The horns sound different and aren’t too loud, Located in large rooms, cafeteria, and hallways)
EST Integrities. (2 Located in Gym, and 2 in Auditorium, GROAN!)
EST Integrity single-gain remote strobes. (In classrooms, bathrooms, and clinic, mounted on the ceiling as WALL MOUNTS)
EST 270-SPO pulls. (Only 1 in the entire building doesn’t have a break rod)
EST SIGA smoke detectors. (None in the band room, most classrooms, and cafeteria)
Simplex 2901-9806 Horn. (Located outside the building, does not sound off when in Alarm, or Drill)
Some VA4s on the 1st and 2nd floor have some white paint on the mounting plates.
I now go to a Transitions to Work program in Boston, MA. The office it’s located in has a small EST system (it’s a five-story building, but has a small non-voice evac EST panel located at one of the entrances.)
The alarms are mostly EST Integrity horn/strobes, along with Genesis horn/strobes on the “FIRE” trim plates in renovated areas. One mens’ room I was in had a remote Integrity strobe, but another had a Genesis! It might have actually been a remote strobe too, as it wasn’t on a trim plate and they come with false horn grilles.
Pulls are all Edwards 270-SPOs (with “FIRE ALARM” on top and the Edwards shield logo), and there are also those EST “traffic cone” smoke detectors.
But there are also a few remains of a previous system! The building is pretty old (I’d say from the 1920s or 1930s.) In one stairwell there is what looks like a 10-inch bell that was painted over (probably an Adaptabel.) A little ways from the entrance I typically use, there are cover plates from where an alarm and pull were (the plate hiding where an old alarm was is 4x4 size; there was probably a bell there too.)
My office has a Fire Lite 9200UDLS with a Keltron Wireless Transmitter. There are 35 devices (mainly PE smokes and pull stations) with 2 tampers and 2 low-air pressure switches for the dry system. In the basement there is a Edward Vigilant VS-1 set up as a demo panel to test my programs before going out in the field
So here are the alarms I have at school. I’ll get around to updating my site to reflect this soon. I apologize for the blurriness.
In most of the classrooms, we have Wheelock ZNS-MCC-FW’s. They’re relabled by Siemens but I can’t remember the Siemens model number.
In the hallways, we have ZNS-MCW-FW’s. So, pretty much the same as the ones in the classroom, but wall-mount.
Wherever audible notification is not required, we have ZRS-MCW’s or -MCC’s. They’re also white.
Outside, we have AHWP’s, I think. I’m not entirely sure, but they look (and sound) like the MT4’s without strobes. I’ll see if I can get a picture soon.
Throughout the hallways we have addressable Siemens smoke detectors. Some of them have handwritten labels (oops!) but most of them are unlabeled.
As for pull stations, we have Siemens addressable pulls (MSX, I think.) I’m not stupid enough to lift up the Stopper so you can see the pull better, so you’ll have to do with one behind a Stopper.
Any questions?
I just made a very unusual discovery at my MS.
I was in the washrooms by the main entrance. It is a 6-man washroom (unlike the one-man washroom that I almost always use), and do you know what I found in there?
A FLIPPING 2901-9724!!!
Yes, in a 20x10 foot space, there is a 10 inch bell! These are the modern types of 9724, since they do not have the ULC stickers on the bottom. Of course, I would still hate to be in that washroom during a fire drill!! :lol:
We have Gentex Commander3’s and Radionics T-Bar pulls