If your school’s FACP is showing “Program Corrupted” then this means your school’s fire alarm system is running in an emergency fail-safe mode and it may not go into alarm if there is a fire. This is a very serious safety issue and I am actually quite surprised that it has not been fixed. If you can, report this to your school’s principal. Be honest and say you’re a fire alarm enthusiast and happened to notice this.
“Program Corrupted” means that the addressable panel’s system programming is unreadable by the panel. On the NFS series panels when this occurs, it goes into a fail-safe mode where all the addressable devices in the system are auto-programmed into memory and controlled with the factory default options for each device. The system essentially becomes a giant single zone fire alarm system with no indication of what device went into alarm.
I have done that, but my principal told me that the tech with the password is gone and the school can’t fix it, so I suggested they replace the panel (I suggested to them to factory default the panel, probably asking for the panel, should I service the system with administration and the techs?), pull station, (asking for it…) smokes + heats, (probably asking for those) NA’s are staying…
But thank you for teaching me about the “program corrupted” trouble.
First off, DO NOT TOUCH THE PANEL. YOU ARE NOT AN AUTHORIZED FIRE ALARM TECHNICIAN.
Second, replacing the panel is not necessary. If your school can contact the fire alarm company who installed the panel and schedule a service call, they should have a backup of the panel’s system programming that they can re-download to the panel.
As for the missing password, the AFP and NFS series panels spit out a code, made of 5 groups of 5 letters or numbers (8 groups on the NFS-3030). The school, in cooperation with the alarm company, can send an official signed document (I think it has to be notarized even) to Notifier containing this code, and then Notifier can decipher it to recover the lost password.
That’s the problem, my school doesn’t have the password… When I look at a smoke detector, it polls like it should, when I look at a module, it polls, when I look at the ONLY pull station, it doesn’t… What do you think that could mean? Plus, I requested them to call a tech, they said “The person who has the password is gone…” So, do these NFS panels have a factory default? I would like to show you my school’s system, but if: 1) my parents would let me bring my iPad… And 2) if you were in Arizona, would you like me to PM you my school’s address?
The NFS panels do have a factory default but it is hidden behind the programming password.
There is no backdoor without completely wiping the panel’s existing programming… this would mean a new panel.
Re-read what I said as the programming password can be recovered. Don’t tl;dr my post again please.
Well I just found out that my High School has an EST 3x system, which the main panel is located in a Storage closet in one of the cafeterias, as well as other panels labeled Honeywell in there. One R series annunciator with Common Controls located at the main entrance. Pulls include SIGA-278 and SIGA-270 which are mixed throughout the building. All pulls are covered with Stopper II’s. Now the thing that throws me off is they recently replaced all Integrity’s with System Sensor SpectrAlert Advance’s? All strobes and Horn/Strobes are System Sensor’s. Why wouldn’t they just replace with new Genesis’s or Integrity’s? Unless Edward’s teamed up with Honeywell, I am clueless. If anyone has a possible explanation please let me know. Also SIGA-PS smokes are only in the hallway’s? Not in classroom’s, the cafeteria or Library? Only in hallway’s and stairwells? Isn’t this a code violation? Specifically NJ. The school was built in 1997. One theory I came up with is back in 2009 the other high school got an addition and instead of EST which is also in that high school, Notifier NBG-12LX and Notifier Smoke/Heat Detectors as well as SpectrAlert Advances were put in the addition. The old part has Edwards 270-SPO’s and 892-2b Horn/Strobes. That school was built in 1973. Now maybe the district lost contract with the contractor who deals with Edward’s and got replaced with another who deals with Notifier brands. However if you can find a better reason I would like to hear it.
So tomorrow I move in to my (brand spankin’ new) dorm, but I got a chance to go inside and see what alarms are in the building.
It’s a Simplex 4100ES system with a 4009 NAC extender, with TrueAlert speaker-strobes, remote speakers, and remote strobes scattered throughout the building. There’s even weatherproof strobes in each shower stall. Interestingly enough, rather than using Simplex pull stations, the installer opted for Notifier BNG-1Rs, which is odd, because I don’t think Oklahoma requires metal pull stations; I’ve seen other Simplex systems here in town (including this hotel where I’m writing this) that have plastic pull stations. Note: I do not think these images are large enough to require resizing, as they do not stretch the page horizontally. Correct me if I’m wrong.
I would say so. I’m surprised that they didn’t install a low-frequency solution in the rooms. I can see that another box in that picture is labelled “Sounder Bases”. I’m not sure what the 4100ES voice evac signal is. I suppose I’ll find out eventually when they do testing/drill/inevitable false alarm.
If the low frequency requirement has been adopted in your area, then my best guess would be that a 520Hz tone is integrated into the voice evacuation message.