I’m the polar opposite, I’ve only seen the 9846s in person. Thank god my school put remote 9105 strobes in the classrooms (even the big ones) though, I know those things are measured 100 decibels.
Speaking of the 9846… is this overkill?
It was overkill when there was a 9838 in the bathroom at Olive Garden, and its overkill now. Personally I think its overkill to put ANY horn/strobe in a bathroom. It makes me wonder how NewAgeServerAlarm went to the bathroom in his middle school!
The 9838s come in about 87-90+ db. Of course the testing in the UL sound room is different than in an actual building.
We have a Silent Knight Regency 4720 doing Fire Alarm, Intrusion, and Access Control all managed through a state of the art at the time DOS interface.
My old K-8 school has a Simple 4100U system. Don’t have any pictures, sorry. Notification appliances are Simplex 4906-9229 white addressable multi-candela horn strobes, the remote strobes are multi-candela addressable also, I’m spacing on the model number, but it has to be 4904-something because remote strobes are 4904. Pull stations are 4099-9003s, with a wire guard over the pull stations in the kindergarten classrooms. There is a Stopper II over the pull in the gym. The smoke bases are 4098-9792’s while the heads are 4098-9714s. Don’t remember the model numbers of the heat and duct detectors, and the annunciator by the front door is a 4603-9101. There are also 2 ceiling mount horn strobes, addressable, white, multi-candela. It is fairly new, installed in 2007.
Ill list them.
Current school, 2nd year of 10th grade: Spectralert Advance speaker strobes on whoop and older, inactive horn strobes + an inactive bell system
1st year of 10th grade: Truealert ES Speaker Strobes in the newer part of the building, but Horn Strobes in the older parts, both on code 3 + remnants of an inactive bell system
9th grade: Wheelock NSs on code 3
7-8th grade: Spectralert Advance horn strobes on code 3.
5-6th grade:EST Genesis on code 3
1st-4th i was homeschooled, so some unknown household smoke detector
Kindergaten: i remember something like a deeper sounding horn like a 2903 or 7002t but i cannot remember.
Preschool: Wheelock MTs
Do you remember what the older inactive horn/strobes in your high school were?
They were just Spectralert Advances, I think they were turned off because its a school for kids with autism and ADHD, and were replaced with voice evacs
Going back, reediting some of mine.
Edgewater Public Elementary (1998-2003; Pre-K, Kindergarten, 1st Grade)
Panel
[*]Silent Knight
Alarms
[*]Wheelock MT-WM (inside Building 1, and I think 2-4, plus there was a portable too which had an MT in it; all set to continuous horn)
[*]1 Gentex GOS in Building 1
[*]Simplex 2901-9833 + 2903 Strobe Plates (Buildings 6-9, and outside)
[*]Wheelock NS Horn/Strobe in ONE kindergarten classroom
[*]Maybe a few RSS Strobes
Pull Stations
[*]ADT 5050 (buildings 1-4, but all were replaced with MS-2s sometime in first grade)
[*]FCI MS-2 (buildings 6-9)
Smokes
[*]Unknown, probably older System Sensor or Gamewell
Notes
This system has been since replaced, new horn/strobes are Gentex Commander 3’s. Panel is likely an Notifier NFS-320 or NFS-640. Smokes are Notifier as well.
Indian River Elementary (1999; Pre-K for August/September/October)
Panel
[*]Notifier System 5000
Alarms
[*]System Sensor MASS24LO (inside; all are set to 800 HZ continuous)
[*]Gentex GX-90 Horn/Strobe (SLT room)
[*]Wheelock EHS-DL1 (Art room)
[*]Simplex 2901-9838 + 2903 strobe plates (outside)
Pull Stations
[*]ADT 5050
Smokes
[*]Fenwal or System Sensor
Spruce Creek Elementary (2003-2007; Grades 2-5)
Panel
[*]Thorn/Autocall AL1500(?); the panel’s been replaced with an NFS-3030
Alarms
[*]Simplex 4051 horns on unknown Faraday Light Plates (like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI9PJXjJvYc but flipped upside down)
[*]Wheelock MT-WM horn/strobes (mostly slapped onto light plates replacing broken horns (including a few 2903s)
[*]2 Gentex GOS Horn/Strobes (1200 hz continuous)
[*]Wheelock AS Horn/Strobe (building 10, set to code-3)
[*]Gentex Commander 2 (art room, portables, Building 13, few other places; mechanical continuous)
[*]Federal Signal 450D+VALS (Building 12 and outside)
[*]Simplex 2901-9806 Horns (some on 2903 light plates!)
Pull Stations
[*]Simplex 4521-20s (when I was in 2nd grade)
[*]FCI MS-2s, which was what replaced the 4521-20s
[*]Notifier BG-12LX (Building 13)
Smokes
[*]Old Thorn/Autocall
[*]ESL Heat Detectors in the portables
Notes
The whole system is due for replacement soon
Creekside Middle School (2007-2010; Grades 6-8)
Panels
[*]Autocall TFX-400 (fiber between buildings)
Alarms
[*]Gentex Commander 2 Horn/Strobes and Strobes (inside, Code-3 Mechanical)
[*]Gentex GMS Horn/Strobes (outside, behind weatherproof covers, did continuous)
Pull Stations
[*]Grinnell rebranded RSG T-Bars
[*]One FCI MS-2 in the gym
Smokes
[*]Autocall/Grinnell
Spruce Creek High School (2010-2014; Grades 9-12)
Panel
[*]Notifier NFS2-640
Alarms
[*]Gentex Commander 2 & 3 Horn/Strobes and Strobes (some set to mechanical, others to tone; all coded by FACP)
[*]Gentex SSPK24WLPR (Gym, Cafeteria, Auditorium; Temporal Whop and Voice Message)
Pull Stations
[*]Notifier BG-12LX
[*]FCI MS-2 (portables)
Smokes
[]Notifier FSP
[]ESL Heat Sensors in the portables
A minor update today with the Fine Arts building at my college: today they replaced a Simplex 4251-20 pull that had failed with a Notifier NBG-12L pull station. Not surprised they used that, given how the building already has an NFS2-640 system (set up as conventional), and the college typically goes with Fire-Lite/Notifier these days.
I’m highly worried about Wheelock 7002Ts going extinct, getting expelled like a drunk punk, in Springfield, Vermont before it’s even 2018! When they can likely easily live to the 2020s!
I hope not. When I was in Vermont, my grandparents retirement home had Simplex 9220s but the ground floor around the apartments there were Simplex 9806s on Simplex 2903 strobe plates. And the motel we stayed in had Wheelock 7002Ts.
And Vermont seems less likely to change their signals just for the sake of change, unlike in RI, at least in spots of RI you were in…
Because IIRC, they’re appears to be old school Simplex in a Vermont court room well north of Springfield. (And that was recently, on Tv!)
While Vermont don’t appear to be fire alarm nazis, they definitely have street light bulb nazis!
Only today noticed that some of the hall double-doors that close on alarm have Mircom MS-403U blue emergency pull stations. I guess they sound some sort of door siren and close them pretty fast. It’s weird because there are TWO pulls on each side of the door, so I guess you have to pull them both to close the entire double-door?
I went to the San Gorgonio High School in San Bernardino, CA because I lived down there at the time. The alarms have since been replaced as of the 2004 renovation but here’s what they had.
Some of these Edwards Adaptabels had larger gongs and some of them were single stroke. They were pretty loud though. These were the original alarms they had in the '60s. Some of these stopped working in the '70s and were replaced with…
…Edwards Adaptahorns. These were extremely loud. They also sounded a bit raspy. The school eventually put in some visual signals in the form of…
…Simplex 4904-9053s. These were on March Time while everything else was on Temporal 3. Some of these lights were on plates with Adaptahorns on top, or FCI HP horns that replaced the dead Adaptahorns.
The 2004 renovation replaced all these alarms and added Edwards Genesis horn strobes and remote strobes inside and Wheelock AHWP horns outside, and the AHWPs were replaced by Integrity horns more recently. There was a stadium built as well as another wing added for special education that had all SpectrAlert Advance devices and their own dedicated Notifier SFP-2402E panels (Essentially a Fire Lite MS-2 with a black housing) and NBG12L pull stations. I believe the current main panel is an Edwards FireShield Plus, not sure what the old one was.
1 Like
So apparently, my old middle school got a HUGE fire alarm upgrade, completely ridding all of the old SHGs, GX-90s, 450D-VALS, the unknown alarm (which I now know as an Amseco BZ-54VT with a RSD-24L strobe, Name That Fire Alarm would go nuts over that) and some older Commanders. Now, where those alarms were is now an outlet ledge in classrooms and a cover-up backbox everywhere else. The school now has Gentex Commander 4 horn-strobes everywhere, with normal Commander 3s in certain areas like the Big Gym. I only know of this by pictures, so I’m not entirely sure if they put horn/strobes in the classrooms or not (couldn’t really see a grille). Funny thing: the first image I saw of one farther away, I almost assumed they were L-series alarms, and I felt evil for my little sister who is going to that school :lol: :lol: . But as I saw them as Commander 4s, the evil slipped because those things aren’t really loud compared to System Sensor’s buzzers. So yeah, more info on them as time progresses.
So my high school added some new Siemens annunciators which may mean they’re getting a new system. As far as I know they’re adding a Firefinder XLS panel with voice evac, and whatever the model of the Siemens rebranded version of the Wheelock E70 is.
I don’t go there anymore, I haven’t since 1999, but it’s still interesting. On a side note, I hate the Edwards Genesis. Not only did they never release a four wire variant outside of speaker strobes, but in order to convert the Code 3 horn to a steady horn you actually have to break off parts of the circuit board. But boy are they cheap on Amazon when they’re on sale and they’re basically always on sale. (http://amzn.to/2zDuTDI http://amzn.to/2iTvhE6)
Since my school was built in the early 50’s, our fire alarm system had to be upgraded many times.
The current setup at my school is as follows;
Grade 7/8 wing - EST Genesis wall mounted in the hallway, and EST Integrity (just horn, no strobe) in all classrooms. (They added this part on in 2014)
High school wing - EST Integrity (just horn, again) and being slowly replaced with SpectrAlert Advances.
Gymnasium - Edwards bell (unknown model)
Panel - (unknown, hidden in some random custodial office)