Are they flush mount or are they on 4050-80 light plates?
My High school has Simplex 4050 horns on 4050 plates and has Simplex T bars (dual action) I do not know the panel! Lol!
So you mean 4050 light plates right?
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Yes. They did have 4050 plates 
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Yes. They did have 4050 plates
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Do you mean the 4050-8x series or one of the Faraday or Gamewell equivalents?
And are you sure they are 4050s and not 4051s? 4051s change their pitches. 4050s stay the same.
I do not know. :?:
:roll: They have Faraday plates and 4050s.
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:roll: They have Faraday plates and 4050s.
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You mean these?
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:roll: They have Faraday plates and 4050s.
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You mean these?
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No 
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I think he might mean this.
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You are correct. 
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I think he might mean this.
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You are correct.
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Those are Simplex.
At my elementary school: Inside there are wheelock AS 3rd gen horn strobes, notifier nbg12lx pull stations, notifier smoke and heat detectors and wheelock rss strobes in the smaller rooms and restrooms, one of the AS’s in the cafeteria was replaced by a spectralert advance p2/4r horn strobes after i graduated, the annunciator is a FDU-80. On the outside, there is a asap located by the main eneterance and a mtwp located by the back where the staff entrance and the utility rooms are, recently, two unmarked spectralert advance srk weatherproof strobes have been installed near where the two weatherproof fire alarms were that are part of the security system. Finally in the trailer they have the same pulls the main building has and the have wheelock zns horn strobes and zrs strobes. At my middle school campus the 6th grade building which was a former elementary school built in 1964 and added on in the early 80s the building has notifier bg-12 older pull stations and 2 newer ones by the 2 exits on the east side of the school, the school has spectralert classic pc12/22 horn strobes, just horns no strobes. the annunciator is an cld80 and the panel which my former gym teacher who retired in the summer after 6th grade ended was kind enough to show me the panel in the boiler room three times. the panel was a notifier NFS2 3030E. This is a lot of evidence that there was a simplex system because i saw a couple simplex 4050 horns, a simplex 4902 strobe only and a simplex 2901 bell lastly, there are two spectralert classic outdoor horn strobes, in the 7th and 8th grade building which has an estimated io64 newer version fire alarm panel/system, there are est genesis horn strobes, eat sign 278 pulls and eat sig2 smoke and heat detectors, there is one 270spo pull by the stage exit and there are 2 est io series annunciators, some remains were… an edward’s integrity horn strobe in the copier room which is now disconnected since they added in the new system, a standard electric time pull by the cafeteria exit, and an edwards adaptabell in the 7th grade hallway, finally the outdoor alarms are set integrity weatherproof horn strobes.
EST Genesis Horn/Strobe ceiling mounts, 1 integrity, 270-SPOs
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At my elementary school: Inside there are wheelock AS 3rd gen horn strobes, notifier nbg12lx pull stations, notifier smoke and heat detectors and wheelock rss strobes in the smaller rooms and restrooms, one of the AS’s in the cafeteria was replaced by a spectralert advance p2/4r horn strobes after i graduated, the annunciator is a FDU-80. On the outside, there is a aswp located by the main eneterance and a mtwp located by the back where the staff entrance and the utility rooms are, recently, two unmarked spectralert advance srk weatherproof strobes have been installed near where the two weatherproof fire alarms were that are part of the security system. Finally in the trailer they have the same pulls the main building has and the have wheelock zns horn strobes and zrs strobes. At my middle school campus the 6th grade building which was a former elementary school built in 1964 and added on in the early 80s the building has notifier bg-12 older pull stations and 2 newer ones by the 2 exits on the east side of the school, the school has spectralert classic pc12/22 horn strobes, just horns no strobes. the annunciator is an cld80 and the panel which my former gym teacher who retired in the summer after 6th grade ended was kind enough to show me the panel in the boiler room three times. the panel was a notifier NFS2 3030E. This is a lot of evidence that there was a simplex system because i saw a couple simplex 4050 horns, a simplex 4902 strobe only and a simplex 2901 bell lastly, there are two spectralert classic outdoor horn strobes, in the 7th and 8th grade building which has an est io64 newer version fire alarm panel/system, there are est genesis horn strobes, eat sign 278 pulls and eat sig2 smoke and heat detectors, there is one 270spo pull by the stage exit and there are 2 est io series annunciators, some remains were… an edward’s integrity horn strobe in the copier room which is now disconnected since they added in the new system, a standard electric time pull by the cafeteria exit, and an edwards adaptabell in the 7th grade hallway, finally the outdoor alarms are set integrity weatherproof horn strobes.
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This was my Elementary School that I went to from 2006-2016.
The main system, installed in 1998, like my high school, has Edwards integrity horns and horn strobes set on continuous. The panel is a panel that I have only seen once, and it is an EST ESA 2000. The pull stations are these rare rebranded Mirtone 73303 pulls by Edwards. There are also some 270 spos at random spots, as well as 2 mircom ms-401 pulls in the gym. Smokes are early 2000s EST smokes (don’t know the model number). The small add on, completed in 2000, has integrity horns and 1 270 SPO at the exit. There is also 1 portable with an Edwards/GS mb6-24 motor bell (rebranded potter bell)with a 270 spo pull.
Today I have the final system of my previous schooling to share. Several days ago, I visited my preschool for the first time in a good eight or ten years, and I’m happy to report that contrary to what I had thought, very little has changed. The building has a smallish, old 80s Simplex system (2001? 4001?). The notification appliances are Simplex 2901-9833 horns on Simplex 2903-9001 light plates, while the initiating devices consist primarily of Simplex 4251-20 pull stations and Simplex “whiffleball” smoke detectors. The only minor (but very clear) change to the system that I could see was the installation of a new Simplex 2099 pull station in a classroom that had an exterior exit, underneath an STI Stopper II. As I vaguely recall, the old pull station was mounted super high up, and my guess is that the fire marshal wasn’t happy with such a height in a daycare center, so the new pull station was mounted considerably lower.
Today I walked into my school’s forum and noticed that there were two installations of alarms with blue stuff covering the strobes and no front (whole NA was white). One was ceiling mounted above the front desk and the other was wall mounted by the commons. I have no idea why these are here because Siemens ZH horn/strobes are close to both of these. The NA’s look too thin to be ZR strobes, more like ST (RSS) strobes.
Either:
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The school’s getting new alarms for next year, and with an addition on the other building halfway complete I might see a Siemens voice evac system installed due to the buildings being too big for horns.
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Security alarms? They are remote strobes and only installed here.
UPDATE: The alarms are most likely going to be Siemens ST-AMC-(mount/colour)-MNS-ALERTs, because it has an amber strobe but doesn’t have a cover yet. I’m not sure if they’re either new alarms for a new system or security alarms, but I’m pretty sure the MXL went discontinued because it’s affiliated with Faraday/Pyrotronics. If that’s the case and the building’s getting new alarms, that’s the most useless alarm replacement I’ve ever seen.