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Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:03 am

My workplace is a 3 stored building. In each floor alarms are installed. They are siren type alarms.
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Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:27 pm

I have a summer internship! Here's the system there.

9 Hamilton Place - Boston, MA
Panel: Fire-Lite system of some sort, judging by the ANN-80 annunciator
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Pull stations: Edwards 270-SPO at the entrance, Kidde B5's everywhere else.
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Detectors: Chemetronics heat detectors
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Signals: Gentex SHG horn/strobes
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The one near the entrance is slapped onto a Simplex 4050-80 light plate. :roll:
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Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:29 pm

Well at least they replaced the 4051s with another horn that can have different pitches.
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Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:28 pm

They probably originally had a Simplex system, then they upgraded to a Kidde system in the early or mid-90s, and now they have the Fire-Lite panel.
Seeing that SHG on the 4050-80 light plate reminds me of the former Rainbow store near my college campus that had Gentex GMS horn/strobes slapped onto Simplex 2903 plates, but they kept the Simplex 4251-20 pulls. The panel was probably a Fire-Lite system of some kind. Then everything came out when it got converted to a Planet Fitness, with an Advanced-brand voice-evac system with Gentex ceiling-mount speaker/strobes (like the GMS, that speaker/strobe is is another rare alarm for my area, so it beats just going with System Sensor or Wheelock alarms.)

Speaking of my college, I'm still wondering what fire alarm system changes may be occurring this summer. The only ones I know that are planned are to install Stopper II covers over the pulls in the Student Union (there have been quite a few false alarms caused by someone's backpack catching onto a pull station and setting it off), and eventually replace the Faraday MPC-7000 system in the Liberal Arts and Humanities buildings (they'll most likely go with a Notifier NFS2-640.)
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Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:10 pm

wiley209 wrote:
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They probably originally had a Simplex system, then they upgraded to a Kidde system in the early or mid-90s, and now they have the Fire-Lite panel.
Seeing that SHG on the 4050-80 light plate reminds me of the former Rainbow store near my college campus that had Gentex GMS horn/strobes slapped onto Simplex 2903 plates, but they kept the Simplex 4251-20 pulls. The panel was probably a Fire-Lite system of some kind. Then everything came out when it got converted to a Planet Fitness, with an Advanced-brand voice-evac system with Gentex ceiling-mount speaker/strobes (like the GMS, that speaker/strobe is is another rare alarm for my area, so it beats just going with System Sensor or Wheelock alarms.)
That same set up also reminds me of my third and last elementary school having a couple of Faraday Light Plates (similar to JTD321's but flipped upside down with no fire lettering on the sides) with Wheelock MT-WM horn/strobes, one Gentex GOS horn/strobe, and one Wheelock AS horn/strobe slapped onto the plate. The rest had Faraday 5640 horns. Outside same with with the 2903s, except there was one GOS and the rest had 2901-9806 or Faraday 5640s on them. The light plates in question looked like this (sorry if it's too blurry).
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Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:02 am

Those are the light plates I christened the "Faraday 5415" because it is HIGHLY unlikely we'll ever find out the name out it.
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Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:54 pm

Came back to my school for junior orientation and they have these blue-strobed Siemens/Wheelock signals (both ceiling and wall mounted) installed around the school. I have no idea if these are in places like classrooms but do you all know what they might be used for?
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They also are installed outside near any entrance door.
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Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:14 pm

After a quick search I found information on Blue Point Alert systems.
https://www.foxvalleyfire.com/2014/04/b ... r-schools/

Based in what I read, I theorize the blue strobes are part of a new lock down emergency warning system.
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After a quick search I found information on Blue Point Alert systems.
https://www.foxvalleyfire.com/2014/04/b ... r-schools/

Based in what I read, I theorize the blue strobes are part of a new lock down emergency warning system.
Oh that's cool. I know about BluePoint and I'm sure these alarms would function similarly. There aren't any other pull stations in the building besides the traditional fire pulls and the Mircom door pulls, so it must only be able to be activated via the front office.

(EDIT: I recall the strobes originally being amber with blue covering paper on the first two installed in the Forum. They must have changed that or they put a coloring over them, since they seem less shiny than some of the other ones.)
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Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:55 pm

Hola...

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So the east building of my high school has speaker/strobes now, as well as the original fire alarm N/As. I’m gonna assume that the alarm model number is SET-MC-CW-ALERT (Siemens). These, along with the remote speaker varient are installed in the hallways, classrooms, bathrooms(!), and other spaces. The only place I saw the remote strobes were in small office/meeting rooms around the building. I have no idea if they’re ridding the old Simplex fire alarms, as some have been replaced by wall-mounted SETs.

Siemens smoke detectors and pull stations were also installed around, so this has to be tied in with the original FireFinder XLS. If that’s the case I might see speakers and speaker/strobes installed in the other building too, replacing the ZHs.

We have the Emergency Drills Wednesday so I’m not sure if the speakers will go off or the horns will, or both. LMK what you guys think if you had past experience.

The blue strobed Wheelock/Siemens alarms are in fact installed in the other building and the staff center. They arent in the classrooms though, but ones with exit doors might have them.

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Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:13 pm

idontwannaknow wrote:
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I have no idea if they’re ridding the old Simplex fire alarms, as some have been replaced by wall-mounted SETs.

Siemens smoke detectors and pull stations were also installed around, so this has to be tied in with the original FireFinder XLS. If that’s the case I might see speakers and speaker/strobes installed in the other building too, replacing the ZHs.

We have the Emergency Drills Wednesday so I’m not sure if the speakers will go off or the horns will, or both. LMK what you guys think if you had past experience.
From what you've described, it seems that the new system is done and probably will be used during the drills.
Are the old pull stations and detectors still intact? If so, they're probably going to be removed soon. Why not ask the school administration for the old alarms?
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Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:31 pm

Sorry, I don’t collect fire alarms, I’m just interested.

Secondly, there are some areas (for instance, the enterence, the pool, and the gym) that still don’t have them, but visable backbox holes are seen. The connecting hallway between the buildings also only has speakers, although the computer labs on this hall seem to have their stuff straight. (That was where I saw the first SET in one of the rooms, it surprised me and I thought they were only gonna used for the labs and Auditorium, I was wrong)

And like i said, all the original Simplex stuff (TrueAlerts, 9846s, and -9105 strobes like the one seen in the picture) is still intact, along with pulls and smokes, so I was wondering which ones would be used.
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Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:33 pm

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Sorry, I don’t collect fire alarms, I’m just interested.

Secondly, there are some areas (for instance, the enterence, the pool, and the gym) that still don’t have them, but visable backbox holes are seen.
Then the new system is probably still being finished up, so the old system is (hopefully) still active for now.
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Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:21 am

I work at Koorsen. There are no set alarms at work.
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Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:24 pm

UPDATE: I noticed that the whole Auditorium has been ridded of 9846s on 9105s, and everything is SET-MC-WW-ALERTs, with the speaker only varient as well. The side entrance slips have ST-MC-CW-ALERT strobes. This is the only area in the school without the old alarms now.

Someone told me that they were testing the speaker/strobes during their sophomore orientation. This probably means that those will in fact be used instead of the old fire alarms. Tomorrow my school does this Emegency Drills segment where we practice the lockdown, fire, and tornado drills at once, so because of the ‘ALERT’ lettering they might go off for each of the drills, obviously with a different message.

I’m kinda excited to see how they do but if the oldies are used instead that will be dissappointing.

Oh and an edit: if they go off for every severe thunderstorm warning issued within the year I SWEAR TO GO...
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