The 4-wire devices will be released in a separate phase.
Where did you hear that? The way I see it thereâs no real reason for System Sensor to bother with 4-wire models since 4-wire isnât really necessary anymore (for fire alarm systems at least).
Friend at System Sensor. Here is a quote from an email conversation: âThe four wire products will be launched separately in a later phase.â
Oh okay. Weird that they wouldnât launch both those models & the others right away alongside the horn/strobe & remote strobe models though if you ask me.
They are starting to show up⌠Not in ebay yet, but still.
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So, apparently the New LED L-Series doesnât run on FWR. Looks like Eluxas might be taking over
Wait really? That would be a design flaw if FWR itself wasnât one already. I wouldnât put all your money on Eluxas becoming the norm though: just because they can take FWR & the LED L-series supposedly canât doesnât mean anything.
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I like this move, it hopefully pushes manufacturers to building better supplies for their panels, and to do it right.
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Yeah, & not be cheap like Simplex (or rather Hochiki since they make the majority of Simplexâs equipment nowdays) with their current products (in this case they donât have a capacitor which would protect against FWR, thus causing them to be damaged if powered with that type of current).
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Hereâs a problem with that. A lot of FireLite panels are FWR (9200, 9200UD, 9200UDLS, MS-2, MS-4, MS-5UD) and all Mircom panels. This is bad for backwards compatibility. Letâs say there a MS-9200UD full of Spectralert Classics, letâs say one of the classics die and you canât use a LED L-Series because it wonât run on FWR. You would have to replace the entire panel or add a power supply. This is incredibly stupid since there are still MS-9200UDLS out there.
How is simplex cheap, theyâre power supplies are really good. The SPS is like indestructible.
True, yes: why System Sensor supposedly didnât factor in FWR we may never know, but at least that may act as an incentive to panel manufacturers to cut the crap with FWR & make sure their panels output filtered DC, & if anyone happens to notice that the LED L-series canât take FWR they can always go with another companyâs NAs (though they likely wonât as who reads the manual to anything these days?).
For the most part yes, but they apparently got cheap &/or lazy when it came to their devices from the 1990s onward, pretty much all of which like I said lack a capacitor to compensate for FWR (though as I also said thatâs pretty much Hochikiâs fault instead since they make Simplexâs devices nowdays).
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And who do you think gives the specs for Hochiki to manufacture?
Ah, yeah, Simplex, so I guess it is their fault that their devices are unable to take FWR after all.
Their devices were never designed to take FWR since most their panels output filtered DC
With the exception of the 4001. Itâs still stupid that they wouldnât do what all other NA manufacturers were doing as standard though.
It doesnât really matter, most simplex devices where installed on simplex panels so they designed their alarms to work on their panels which wait they designed.
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That isnât true and hasnât been for a very long time.
Simplex makes its products in its own factory in Matamoros, Mexico.
What youâre talking about applies only to the older smoke detectors released before 1998 and doesnât apply to Simplexâs other products.
What? NewAgeServerAlarm once said though (only some years back too) that Hochiki makes most of Simplexâs products for them now (prior to that Faraday was Simplexâs OEM, at least for some things).
No disrespect, but every simplex product Iâve owned was manufactured in mexico and nothing has referenced hochiki or other locations that are not mexico. Now hochiki did manufacture some smokes but these were older 2098âs I believe, thatâs it.