What alarm do you have at work/school

That’s about how many students were in my elementary school. It was a Simplex 4007ES system that replaced a 4002. It had all addressable initiation devices. The NA’s were Simplex 4903-9105 strobe plates with 2901-9838 horns. They also added a portable a few years ago with SmartSync TrueAlert horn strobes.

Does the system have an annunciator? If it does, the 4007ES annunciator looks like this:
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No. Don’t remember what the annunciator looks like. I think it’s a 4004 now that I think about it.

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My work has a poter panel with a ceiling mount system sensor alarm. It has one pull station, but two agent release pulls for the hoods.

It also has a sprinkler riser

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My current high school has an EST 3 voice evac system with Genesis (Xenon) speaker strobes, SIGA-278s, and SIGA-PS smokes.

My workplace doesn’t have a system, not even sprinklers, and the security panel had been removed some time before I started working there. There are a couple sets of door contacts and a DSC keypad, but nothing else.

Bruh, talk to management about that. That’s obviously not safe

You might also be able to talk to the fire Marshall/OSHA inspector about those safety violations that they haven’t been able to add. Depending on how large the building is. It should be required.

It is a fairly small building

All they have is a smoke detector and gas detector mounted low on a board?

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There’s another smoke lol. Animal control inspected the place this week and they installed those. No type of monitoring is required because my boss is there 24/7 (it’s a dog daycare, someone’s gotta care for the dogs at night).

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at least it’s a good thing the Animal Control noticed there wasn’t any fire protection previously and installed the detectors. The fire marshall or OSHA inspector would be outraged if they couldn’t find anything.

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Late but there is no such thing as system sensor 9200. i think you mean 2400. notifier makes addressable versions of them. (sdx551)

My old school in Croatia had an esser by honeywell addressable system with

  • Esser iQ8mcp addressable German style call points
  • Esser Flex ES 10 loop panel (was a small school though)
  • Esser iq8quad multi sensor with integrated sounder next to LED indicator for in drop ceiling detector
  • Esser iq8 multi sensor in drop ceilings
  • Conventional fireray beam detector in gym ceiling crawl space monitored with addressable module monitoring it.
  • Geze smoke vent system call points and esser iq8tal relay and monitor module.

My current school in Prague, Czechia has an older esser system.

  • Esser iq8 networked system
  • Esser iq8mcp addressable german style call points
  • Older esser addressable german style call points
  • Esser iq8 smoke detectors in the hall
  • Esser iq8 multi sensors in classrooms
  • Roshni conventional sounders in halls
  • KAC enscape sounders in the addition.
  • Bosch PA system used for voice evac aswell as sounders. (addition has the speakers wired in FP)
  • 1 led indicator for elevator shaft smoke detector in addition.
    My old school in Hungary had a protec addressable system
  • Old and new style protec call points
  • Protec smoke detectors with Apollo led indicators.
  • Protec addressable roshnis and protec voice Evac. Really weird sequencing as the roshnis go off and stop and then the announcement is played. The addition is only voice evac.
    The school i went to for dutch lessons in Hungary had an addressable system sensor system and my brothers kindergarden had an addressable system sensor system with addressable KAC ema sounders (european mass) and either notifier SDX-751s or 2251s
    If you want photos of my current school and the one in Croatia, please ask

From what understand, the system has since been replaced with a Notifier OYNX Voice Evac system. L-Series Speaker/strobes and strobes, as well as weatherproof Advance speaker/strobes replaced the Gentex horn/strobes and strobes. Pulls are now NBG-12LXs. I can assume the smokes are some sort of Notifier model.

my elementary (1999-2006) school that I went to from pre-k to 5th had system sensor spectralert classics horn strobes and strobes, pulls were Cerberus pyrotronics msi 20bs , the panel was a mxl.

Middle (2006-2009) had Faraday 6120s, spectralert advances and classics, Wheelock zns, Gentex Commander 3. pulls were all Pyrotronics 501s and panel was a system 3.

High (2009-2013) had faraday 6120s, wheelock mt 24-lsm, wheelock execeder, system sensor spectralert classics, and Faraday 6123Ls (outside only). pulls were all Pyrotronics ms 501s. the panel was a pyrotronics system 3

they all had Pyrotronics di-3 smoke detectors

Unfortunately, they replaced my middle and high fire alarm systems during the renovations and additions to the school buildings in the early 2020s

High school (renovated in 2020) has Gentex commander 3’s, Honeywell 951 smoke detectors, Silent Knight SD500-PSDA for pulls and a silent knight panel.

middle school (renovated in 2023) has system sensor l series horn strobes and strobes, Honeywell 951 smoke detectors, honeywell farenhyt bg 12 pulls, and a Honeywell farenhyt series panel.

Within the last couple of weeks, I got a new job for a hospital I worked at once before. I decided that now would be a good time to give a recap of the system since I discovered at least a few new things.

The hospital started its life in 1975 as an outpatient center. In 2009, the inpatient sections were built, and last year, a parking garage was added to the site. The original system consisted of National Time and Signal (Natsco) components; there still exists at least one recessed grille in Natsco’s style, but there is no longer anything behind it. The pull stations were most likely Type 641s. At some point before the inpatient section opened, there was an upgraded system installed, but there is no trace of it today other than the numerous, square metal plates scattered throughout the outpatient section.

The current system was added with the opening of the inpatient section. It is a Simplex system consisting of TrueAlarm detectors, 4100U and 4100ES panels, TrueAlert speaker/strobes and strobes (mostly red and wall-mount, but there are white ceiling-mount 4906-series speaker/strobes scattered about), and 2099-series single-action pull stations, some of which are the break-glass variant, and some of which are missing their glass!

The fire alarm and public address systems are tied-in; if a public message needs to be transmitted, the speakers (both alarm and general) sound a 500hz tone for a second, followed by a brief pause, then a chime tone, and then the message is spoken. I do not know what the system is like in alarm mode.

For general signaling purposes, the maternity sections of the hospital have white ceiling-mount Amseco SL24C-series devices with amber strobes.

Lastly, concerning the parking garage that opened in 2023, it has an addressable Simplex system with TrueAlert ES horn/strobes, 4099-series single-action t-bars, TrueAlarms, and an unknown panel–most likely a 4007ES or Foundation-series model.

Provided that’s being done through the fire alarm control panel’s microphone I’m not sure such a thing is allowed by code (Edwards/EST for one says you should not use their IRC-3 with an FCCA audio module as a general paging system due to the fire tone playing if you key the mic & do not talk within 15 seconds, whether the system is in alarm or not).

Really? It’s rare to find Amseco devices in systems!

Well, it didn’t take long; my workplace’s system went into alarm this morning.

The speakers (and speaker/strobes) sounded a 500hz tone for four seconds, before an automated Code Red message was declared, which repeated two more times. During this time, the strobes–which are rated for 15-candela–starting pulsing once per second. After the messages, a chime in temporal coding started and repeated until the system was audibly silenced ten minutes later.

21 minutes after the Code Red started, an all clear was declared, and a minute after that, the strobes deactivated. I was not in the area where the Code Red was declared, so I don’t know the circumstances of why the system went into alarm.

Here is the fire alarm system at my work


Silent Knight 6808 (replaces 5808 that failed)

Inside of the panel
another photo of the inside of the panel
The main alarms are Wheelock AS-24MCW horn strobes
the system also has Wheelock RSS remote strobes.
The smoke detectors are Silent Knight SD505-APS-RC addressable detectors
some portions of the building were remodeled in 2016 and use Exceder horn strobes and remote strobes (models HSW and SW)

Not pictured but there is a Silent Knight SD500-PS pull station in a stairwell

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Do you also have photos of the newly renovated parts with the LED strobes? Although I wonder why most installers just keep the default pin code on the panel.